JasonParis
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It's a Derek Flack article written six years ago when BlogTO had some credibility. They repost these every so often. Today... #BlogTOisClickBait
Interesting article on BlogTO (yes yes, I know) (https://www.blogto.com/city/2014/03/what_the_toronto_streetcar_network_looked_like_in_1945/) today about the peak of streetcar routes in Toronto in 1945, including map: https://transittoronto.ca/archives/maps/Streetcar_1945.pdf
I wonder how many of the old routes would still be viable today?
I'm a big proponent of resurrecting the Parliament Streetcar or at the very least get the tracks to Castle Frank station. This would bring some operational symmetry to the network with 3 Streetcar terminals on each side of Yonge Street. I remember when I was attending George Brown a few years back, the TTC was replacing the tracks on Broadview so you had to take a shuttle bus from Broadview Station to Queen Street to get the 504. Had we still had tracks on Parliament up to Castle Frank, the TTC could have just moved the 504 and 505 there; like they do with the 510 and 511 when either Bathurst or Spadina is out of service.Interesting article on BlogTO (yes yes, I know) (https://www.blogto.com/city/2014/03/what_the_toronto_streetcar_network_looked_like_in_1945/) today about the peak of streetcar routes in Toronto in 1945, including map: https://transittoronto.ca/archives/maps/Streetcar_1945.pdf
I wonder how many of the old routes would still be viable today?
That ship has long sailed, the TTC had their chance.If the TTC will be ordering more new streetcars after COVID-19 (now is a good time to start building them), they should consider ordering double-ended streetcars, with doors on both sides.
Then they can use wye to reverse, using less real estate in the process.
Why use a wye that only adds extra time when stub ends is the way to go.If the TTC will be ordering more new streetcars after COVID-19 (now is a good time to start building them), they should consider ordering double-ended streetcars, with doors on both sides.
Then they can use wye to reverse, using less real estate in the process.
I don't really see the TTC ever buying double-ended cars for the existing network or building wye tracks as part of the existing streetcar networkIf the TTC will be ordering more new streetcars after COVID-19 (now is a good time to start building them), they should consider ordering double-ended streetcars, with doors on both sides.
Then they can use wye to reverse, using less real estate in the process.
I don't really see the TTC ever buying double-ended cars for the existing network or building wye tracks as part of the existing streetcar network
What about building crossovers? Then the car can go both ways without a wye.
What about building crossovers? Then the car can go both ways without a wye.
What about building crossovers? Then the car can go both ways without a wye.
Yes they could add them but in all likelihood they probably won't. Don't forget they were supposed to switch to using pantographs in the 1980's when they bought the CLRVs and ALRVs and it's now 40 years later and not all of the network can be used with one..Crossovers on the streetcar network could be placed along a route to handle short-turns, collisions, or construction.
Yes they could add them but in all likelihood they probably won't. Don't forget they were supposed to switch to using pantographs in the 1980's when they bought the CLRVs and ALRVs and it's now 40 years later and not all of the network can be used with one..
Yes I know that but as I said they had originally planned to do it 40 years ago but didn't. So since they haven't ever said anything about double ended streetcars or crossovers for the legacy network I don't really think it's going to happen in the next 40 years.They are in the process of converting the trolley wires over to pantograph catenary. It's the penny-pinching accountants who are stretching out the conversion timeline.