If I'm not mistaken greenstone and the other muskoka are one and the same. The John Haines rehabs went through a number of names and locations. Greenstone, Vita Novus (not to be confused with Vita Nova).
Same owner? Does not seem to be same location: GreeneStone is near Bala. Muskoka Recovery is near Burk's Falls. Searches show Muskoka Recovery, previously called Pickerel Lake, previously called Vita Novus, is owned by one John Haines. Searches also turn up some people who are some pissed off at John Haines.
From a consumer complaint forum (can't vouch for it in any way, of course, may be BS based on anger for some other reason, or whatever) - note that the complainant says GreeneStone is also owned by John Hianes:
Oct 9, 2012
MUSKOKA RECOVERY CENTER IS A SCAM WATCH OUT!!
Beware of John Haines and his various illegal rehab centres. It is in a residential area and not allowed. Google "John Haines rehab" and you will quickly see he is a known scam artist and KNOWN CRIMINAL with CONVICTIONS. It is alleged that HE IS BACK DRINKING AND DOING COCAINE WITH FORMER MANAGER SCOTT AS OF APPROX OCTOBER 2012 but still attempting to operate his centres as a functioning addict. He may also be trying steroids again. The centre near Burk's Falls, Ontario has changed names THREE times in the same location, let alone the other centres he has opened and (fore)closed before (Vits Novus, Greenestone, etc...google those too).
The order was
1. Vita Novus
http://www.vitanovus.ca/
2. Pickerel Lake Recovery
www.muskokarecovery.com
3. Muskoka Recovery
http://www.pickerellakerecovery.com/
As you can see they all have the same website and even the same phone number (705-382-2193).
He doesn't even take down the old site once he changes the name.
The reason he keeps changing names is because people speak of the poor treatment online and there are too many complaints that can be seen when googleing the place. So he keeps getting fresh starts so when it is googled all that shows up is his own website, until complaints start showing up on the forums then he changes again. Dont let him fool you. He will give you a list of other reasons when you ask about the name changes like "our services have changed so the name did too", etc,etc,etc,etc
If you do a 45 day program he will tell the parents he thinks the child needs to stay longer to recover. to get your cash even if you are ready to go. or if your in a 60 day he will push the parents for 90 days. anything to get money to pay off the loan sharks he alledgedly owes
Send your loved one here if:
1.you want nurses and counsellors that will give them pills for money - or even for free if they liek them enough,
2. nurses that sexually abuse clients - caught with hand down her pant when she was passed out allegedly
3.you are ok with counsellors having sex with clients
4.counsellors caught having sex with each other in the hot tub area downstairs - the same woman tried to sleep with a male client
5. clients caught having sex with one another while high on drugs.
6. councellors coming in stoned
He will try and tell you the internet hate is from former employees, or people from the town who don't want him there, or clients who relapsed, etc.
I am not relapsed i am clean. but i attribute this to myself, not the care a received there.
I was approached by a female counsellor (maybe 40 years old) that tried to kiss me and wanted my cell phone number when i was leaving. She wanted to get drunk with me. Wow isn't that professional.
