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i hope the following is used to keep ford out of the states...

Currently, a non-citizen attempting to enter the United States who admits having consumed illegal drugs — or committing any other crime involving “moral turpitude” — can be deemed inadmissible. There are no firm policies dictating when that happens, says Saunders, leaving it up to the discretion of individual border guards.

Once that happens, the designation is permanent, says Saunders, and one of the only ways to get around it is to file an expensive application for a waiver, which must be renewed every few years.
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http://blogs.windsorstar.com/2013/1...roblems-for-canadian-travellers-experts-warn/
 
Currently, a non-citizen attempting to enter the United States who admits having consumed illegal drugs — or committing any other crime involving “moral turpitude” — can be deemed inadmissible. There are no firm policies dictating when that happens, says Saunders, leaving it up to the discretion of individual border guards.

Once that happens, the designation is permanent, says Saunders, and one of the only ways to get around it is to file an expensive application for a waiver, which must be renewed every few years.
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All of which means that at the border, no one is equal under the law. Ford will go wherever he wants.
 
Honest Ed has a posse said:
The hockey douchebag is Kypreos. It's irrelevant.

Stay focused please.
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Yeah. Sorry. Pretty dumb in retrospect. It was late. Had a couple a' pops. So, drunken stupor defence. It is what it is. And it's all in the past. Moving forward now.
 
zang said:
In the case of Steubenville—as horrific as it was—the perception was this was teens with promising futures doing this to other teens. I don't pretend to understand why some people think rape is excusable as a teen who plays football, but those people do exist and I expect they are not the vast majority. A grown, married man abusing his wife or children is a whole different story.

Ford's popularity exists because he's seen as an average family man. He's "not perfect" and likes to drink now and again, but he's "their kinda guy"; an average suburban schlub. If it were *proven* (the critical part; a lack of proof gives "legitimacy" to the Nation's claims of media slander) that Mr. Family Man has been beating his wife or worse yet (though all abuse is equal) his kids, he'd be toast. Beating your family is not something people come back from.
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OK, the Steubenville case was ONE example, and I gave it because it was well-known, not because it was exactly like the Ford situation. Do some research - abuse, rape, domestic violence is hushed up, explained away, covered up and disbelieved all the time. I found this is like 2 seconds: http://www.childinfo.org/attitudes.html

The domestic violence allegations with Ford have been around for a while, but I don't see much public discussion about it. Why assume the public cares?
 
ShonTron said:
I hope the Americans refuse Ford entry. (Or does he have dual citizenship?)
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Nope. They should arrest Ford on some ridiculous charge, throw him in one of those fancy superprisions and rid us of this municipal menace permanently.

Is someone able to strap a few kilos of of cocaine to the bottom of his car when he leaves for the United States? Or maybe he'll be stupid enough to do it himself.

I'm (kind of) joking of course :cool:

Edit: No, I'm not joking. Please, someone strap some cocaine to the bottom of his car.
 
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Man, the ensuing tantrum from Rofo if he's barred entry at the American border would be one for the books! I hope it happens, and that somebody films it.
 
By all him let him go to the states - just don't admit him back to the country. Better yet, have him caught in the US doing drugs and put him to the tender mercies of their penal system.

AoD
 
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John_Dee said:
Man, the ensuing tantrum from Rofo if he's barred entry at the American border would be one for the books! I hope it happens, and that somebody films it.
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It's actually not that far-fetched an idea. Apparently the CFL commissioner begged Ford not to go to the Eastern Final a couple weeks ago, but he was more or less powerless to stop him from buying his own ticket and showing up. I'm sure the NHL and the U.S. networks that are involved in the Winter Classic feel the same way and I'd think they have some political clout in Michigan. This could be interesting.
 
TOperson said:
The domestic violence allegations with Ford have been around for a while, but I don't see much public discussion about it. Why assume the public cares?
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The narrative around drug use is often that it's victimless. Assault is another matter entirely. While I'm sure that the core Neanderthal element of Ford Nation might shrug off well-founded police evidence, that core won't get him re-elected, and normal folks who just wanted to keep their taxes low aren't likely to want a wife-batterer representing their city.
 
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