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who gives a shit about the sex worker thing?

drunk in his office
assaulting staff
smoking crack
lying about it and everything else for months
trying to cover up evidence
drunk driving
drinking on public time
using public employees for private purposes
buying illegal drugs (almost certainly on public time)
vile sexist remarks
conduct unbecoming on the floor of council
having his security assault journalists

I could go on

I mean really
 
inyyz said:
But who gives a fuck if he's cheating on his wife? That is so beside the point.

I disagree. It speaks to, or adds to, his total lack of a moral compass.
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Jeeeeezuz. What is this? Arkansas, c. 1962? The man allegedly drinks mickeys and drives a 3/4 tonne truck. Wanna talk about immorality? What's immoral? His utter lack of regard for other people's lives.

juniorfox said:
For two days I haven't seen a discussion about Ford's moral compass or his judgment. I've seen a two day discussion about whether Alana Kindree is a slut or a sex worker or something in between and if in between, where the line is and what would push her over the line into sex worker. Any discussion of Ford's morality has been incidental to that. If you guys want to rationalize that you've been discussing morality and judgment this whole time so be it. But it's a gross conversation.
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It's worse than that. It's off-topic, misogynistic, judgmental, ignorant, unkind. It was also typed mostly one-handed.
 
juniorfox said:
Argh I've been trying to ignore this Alana discussion for two days. Even if she is a sex worker and even if he did have her in his office and even if she was his connection (all of which, I might add, is based on the speculation of one of his staffers and a few pictures of her in lingerie dug up online), it's like THE LEAST EGREGIOUS THING he's done. There are SO MANY MORE AWFUL THINGS he's participated in. I'm not saying it's not important to mention it, but days and days of discussing "is she, isn't she" and all the parsing of job descriptions and the whole creepy level of misogyny that's rippled under the surface (or right out in the open occasionally) of these comments... fuck. I mean did I really see someone referencing the sanctity of marriage at one point? I happen to believe that him having a hooker in his office is not the best judgment (if she is or was a hooker). But who gives a fuck if he's cheating on his wife? That is so beside the point.

Anyway that's my rant. That discussion is lame.
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Amen. Seriously. STFU about this.
 
rightwingSUVdriver said:
Rob Ford, by saying that Alana Kindree is a friend, has dared us to prove otherwise, and we're well on our way on that count. It's not about sexual mores, it's about finding another level on which Ford has lied. I don't see what's creepy or pervy, other than Ford's behaviour.

That said, who cares what the definition of sex worker is? Not the issue.
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Really? Do we need yet more proof that he's a pathological liar? So we catch him? Who cares? It's yet another lie to stack on the mountain of lies. This is all just mental masturbation on a slow news day.
 
arksi said:
I can't believe much pearl-clenching is going on over this. And just a reminder that all of this is based on one person's comment in a police report saying that she may have been an escort. That was the end of it. Do you know how many people look like they may be an escort on any given night downtown, especially in the entertainment district?

For a forum that routinely lambasts the mythological Ford Nation over its biases and lack of critical thinking, it's quite amazing just how off the rails things can go around here.
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This.
 
Ex-Montreal Girl said:
Jeeeeezuz. What is this? Arkansas, c. 1962? The man allegedly drinks mickeys and drives a 3/4 tonne truck. Wanna talk about immorality? What's immoral? His utter lack of regard for other people's lives.



It's worse than that. It's off-topic, misogynistic, judgmental, ignorant, unkind. It was also typed mostly one-handed.
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And THIS!
 
I feel so confused.

Why are RoFo going on this media blitz?

It is obvious he was involved in at least extortion if not, and I strongly believe, murder.

Does he think he can weather this storm? It seems like he KNOWS he can.

Chief got some 'splaining to do.

It doesn't add up.
 
junior43 said:
Really? Do we need yet more proof that he's a pathological liar? So we catch him? Who cares? It's yet another lie to stack on the mountain of lies. This is all just mental masturbation on a slow news day.
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Exactly. I'm all for catching Rob Ford in lies but there is no shortage of them in which catching him in them doesn't also include the further destruction of the reputation of a girl who, as another commenter mentioned, is essentially his collateral damage. I'm willing to let this one go and focus on the DOZENS of more massive violations of the public trust and instances where he's put others' lives in danger.
 
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junior43 said:
... This is all just mental masturbation on a slow news day.
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But it HASN'T been a slow news day, that's the thing! The last 3 pages of this thread which I had to wade through would have been much more interesting (and entertaining) if they were speculation about what's brewing behind the scenes between the Federal Conservative apparatus and "Ford Village" (vis-a-vis Jason Kenney's comment), or speculation about how horrible the Fords must have been to get the boot after less than 24 hours on Ezra Levant's hate network, etc.

(rather than the other stuff which I won't get into, since obviously we are all trying to get this thread back on the rails)
 
junior43 said:
Shelley Carroll, pg 189 (?) it was regarding the phone calls around March 26th and a few more days.

And her repeatedly flipping the pages was really annoying, but she was right regarding the phone calls. Hopefully, that's what the cops are also focusing on.
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The Toronto Star live chat today was pretty adamant that there is no connection between Ford and the Anthony Smith murder and no evidence that the video was shot on Smith's cell phone.
 
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