Videodrome
Senior Member
Something like 26 people are running in Ward 20, so you could probably win with even less of the vote.
|
|
|
2014 Municipal Election: Toronto Council Races
- Thread starter ShonTron
- Start date
BurlOak
Senior Member
Whichever councillor supported Ramkhalawansingh must be feeling a bit foolish now. I would be nice if their support in the upcoming election dropped as a result.
somuchwater
New Member
Well, obviously some people do. Just because you (mistakenly, naively) believe something like this to be frivolous, it doesn't mean it is.
Greg Banks
Active Member
See 2014CC53.2 for the twenty-two who voted her in (more or less supported by the leftside of council).....if someone should be so kind as to link it in it would be much appreciated
Greg Banks
Active Member
Really? You think so with Cressy running? I'm of the opinion his percentage will be something closer to 45% given the residual recognition from the Federal byelection....
jml
Active Member
I don't really have a problem with Ramkhalawansingh's motion. She was the director of diversity management and civic engagement for the city before becoming the stand-in councillor; it makes sense something like this might be among her concerns. As for it being a federal rather than municipal issue, so is federal money for affordable housing. The vote is to send a message to the feds. I think the idea that this should make everyone who supported her feel embarrassed is much sillier than the motion itself. (Lord, I never thought I'd see the day where I was the most Social Justice Warrior-y person on a message board.)
Cooper
Senior Member
I wonder how many people actually know the words to O Canada. I never learned the revised version that was introduced a number of years ago. Not sure I can remember the old version we sang at elementary school. Even if could, I have never understood what the "all thy sons command" line meant, anyways. It's not an easy phrase to parse. Are we asking god to command us to fill our hearts with patriotic love? So much for free will, eh?
jml
Active Member
I think the line's supposed to be saying that Canada 'commands'/inspires true patriot love in the hearts of all its citizens.
Lost In The Wilds
Banned
It is frivolous. She and people like Margaret Atwood (who has also made a similar request) are using semantics to exploit peoples' emotions. Does anyone actually believe that the mention of "sons" in the National Anthem is referring to men, exclusively? The literature refers to all Canadians (male, female, gay, straight, deaf, blind, impaired, etc.) Seriously, grow a thicker skin. It's ridiculous to be offended by such a miniscule detail. Completely obsessive. Reading/hearing about stories such as this remind me of this scene from Dirty Work:
[video=youtube;NxDPyhVI1iY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxDPyhVI1iY[/video]
jml
Active Member
"Exploit" to what end exactly? It's too much to believe that Atwood & Ramkalawansingh genuinely do think it matters what words we use & that others might too? I think you don't give them enough credit when you suggest they're playing dumb about "sons" being used to represent the whole human race and not just males. On the contrary, of course they get that. The objection is to precisely that idea, that it's taken for granted that males are the "default" setting of the human race.
Greg Banks
Active Member
I'm still miffed they added "god" and "far and wide" to the English version of Oh Canada back in the late '60's....
Silence&Motion
Senior Member
If you don't care, then it should be fine that there are people out there who want to change the anthem to become gender neutral. It's the push back that I don't understand. Why do people get so obsessed about keeping a national anthem that assumes all Canadians are men.
Silence&Motion
Senior Member
Oh, I get it now. You're just a misogynist.
adma
Superstar
Smell a mystery white boy?