TTC: Streetcar Network

[TransitBart]

This is one hell of a deadhead. When is the rest of the storage capacity at Roncesvalles going to re-open?

 

[W. K. Lis]

Wonder what transit users think of this automobile driver...

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1292843417541865

 

[lenaitch]

It seems like operators and passengers treat it as another day at the office. In Canada, that would involve supervisors, police, tow trucks and reports. Sucks to be them to allow any parking in that area, but it looks like, wherever it is, traffic is bit of a free-for-all.

 

[micheal_can]

It seems like operators and passengers treat it as another day at the office. In Canada, that would involve supervisors, police, tow trucks and reports. Sucks to be them to allow any parking in that area, but it looks like, wherever it is, traffic is bit of a free-for-all.

Attach a "cow catcher" on the trains. Problem solved.

 

[W. K. Lis]

It seems like operators and passengers treat it as another day at the office. In Canada, that would involve supervisors, police, tow trucks and reports. Sucks to be them to allow any parking in that area, but it looks like, wherever it is, traffic is bit of a free-for-all.

Happens here in Toronto, where after a heavy snowfall and plowing, some motorists double-park their vehicles over the streetcar tracks, because their errand is so "important". The trouble is that we can't shove the vehicles away from the tracks because of the snow windrows. The city MUST clear the windrows AND parked vehicles fast on streets with streetcar tracks.

 

[DSC]

This is one hell of a deadhead. When is the rest of the storage capacity at Roncesvalles going to re-open?

AFAIK, all new streetcars need to go the Leslie from time to time as they are the only yard that can currently do full maintenance.

 

[TransitBart]

AFAIK, all new streetcars need to go the Leslie from time to time as they are the only yard that can currently do full maintenance.

This is true, but I am on Queen each night and the route signs are amazing. 512 to Leslie. 506 to Coxwell. 509 to Leslie. 504 short turn to Leslie. This is a regular occurrence on cars going out of service at night. Russell is despatching about 20 Flexities.

 

[Jonny5]

This is true, but I am on Queen each night and the route signs are amazing. 512 to Leslie. 506 to Coxwell. 509 to Leslie. 504 short turn to Leslie. This is a regular occurrence on cars going out of service at night. Russell is despatching about 20 Flexities.

Are some actually going there simply for a crew change? I know there's no overnight streetcar service on St. Clair but there's lots on the other routes now, especially King and Queen. Do they do make nighttime crew changes out in the field, or at the carhouse?

 

[micheal_can]

Can't they make each of those turn to a route that could be used for revenue service?

 

[TransitBart]

So if 505 is going to return to streetcar service, how could it be split into a 505a and 505b to reduce the pressure on the loops at Dundas West and Broadview? Analogous to the split of 504 at the cancellation of 514 service.

 

[W. K. Lis]

Can't they make each of those turn to a route that could be used for revenue service?

Unlike buses, streetcars can and do revenue service to and from the barns. Depends upon the operator, however, if they do. Buses tend to be in revenue service on their route unto they "short turn" at the point on the route where they turn for their garages.

 

[Rainforest]

So if 505 is going to return to streetcar service, how could it be split into a 505a and 505b to reduce the pressure on the loops at Dundas West and Broadview? Analogous to the split of 504 at the cancellation of 514 service.

I'm not sure they have a suitable loop in the east. Presumably they could run "505A" from Brodview to the High Park loop, but the "505B" from Dundas West won't have a good place to turn unless it goes all the way to the Main Street loop.

Or, perhaps the "505B" could turn south on Broadview, and proceed to the Cherry Street loop? But, not sure how many riders will take that route.

 

[dowlingm]

So if 505 is going to return to streetcar service, how could it be split into a 505a and 505b to reduce the pressure on the loops at Dundas West and Broadview? Analogous to the split of 504 at the cancellation of 514 service.

Big problem at Broadview is gonna be on-street stacking. Even if they only run enough service on 505 to ensure that the platform is always vacated, it happens already on 504. Alternative is step back crewing, and sending cars express to Broadview if another is <2min behind.

 

[dowlingm]

perhaps the "505B" could turn south on Broadview, and proceed to the Cherry Street loop? But, not sure how many riders will take that route.

if the Broadview trackage to Unilever ever gets built it would seem like a possible 505 branch terminus to me

 

[W. K. Lis]

if the Broadview trackage to Unilever ever gets built it would seem like a possible 505 branch terminus to me

...or further south into the East Waterfront.

From link.