TTC: Flexity Streetcars Testing & Delivery (Bombardier)

[drum118]

4418 was off loaded on Tuesday at Hillcrest and currently at the Barns. It was Shipped June 22 and only took 156 days for the round trip. Most likely it will re-enter service in Jan 2021.

4421 took 4418 spot on the flat.

4417 was returned Oct 26 after 136 day and been here 29 days so far.

4410 could be the next car to return since it left June 29.

 

[drum118]

4417 has Re-enter service on 505 after arriving Oct 26

4418 was doing an in service test on Queen yesterday

 

[Allandale25]

 

[trtcttc]

Took the streetcar for the first time in a bit and noticed this new module in the gangway between the first and second module. Anyone know what these are for? Potential wifi service in the future?

 

[robmausser]

Took the streetcar for the first time in a bit and noticed this new module in the gangway between the first and second module. Anyone know what these are for? Potential wifi service in the future?
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Thats the Bill Gates 5G module that disperses covid so we have to get the vaccine with implants

 

[drum118]

Here is the current list of cars that have or are in the process of being fix and off site

Boy adding attachment and not showing up is a pain.

Will try this

LVR #		Date Loaded		Date Return		# Days		Re-Enter Service		# Days
4400​		September 07/2018		October 03/2019		391​		November 21/2019		50​
4401​		May 14/2018		March 23/2020		680​		April 14/2020		22​
4402​
4403​		February 20/2019		February 27/2020		372​		June 05/2020		116​
4404​		October 29/2018		March 13/2020		502​		May 21/2020		70​
4405​		April 10/2019		February 03/2020		300​		April 18/2020		76​
4406​		May 01/2019		December 16/2019		231​		March 14/2020		89​
4407​		June 07/2019		May 06/2020		335​		June 23/2020		32​
4408​		June 28/2019		May 27/2020		335​		July 08/2020		43​
4409​		March 13/2020		August 07/2020		147​		Oct 10/2020		69​
4410​		June 29/2020				162+
4411​		May 05/2020		Sept 22/2020		140​		October 29/2020		37​
4412​		July 09/2020				152+
4413​		September 22/2020				76+
4414​		September 06/2019		July 01/2019		299​		August 12/2020		42​
4415​		May 27/2020		Oct 13/2020		140​		Nov 04/2020		22​
4416​		October 13/2020				55+
4417​		June 12/2020		Oct 26/2020		137​		November 28/2020		33​
4418​		June 22/2020		Nov 25/2020		154​
4419​		October 26/2020				42+
4420​
4421​		November 24/2020				13+
4422​
4423​
4424​
4425​
4426​
4427​		August 27/2020				102+
4428​

4471​ April 03/2019 663+ 4478​ January 23/2019 685+

 

[Towered]

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See, even Port Hope knows how to build an elevated LRT line!

 

[drum118]

With only 5 more working days this year, it safe in away to say TTC will not see more cars this year returning from repairs. Not counting Tuesday since there is no flats to be delivery to Hillcrest now.

With 4410 and 4412 going back toward longer delivery dates than the last few cars, it saying TTC is not in need of those cars as well 4471 & 4478 since TTC is planning on cutting service in 2021 for streetcars that will see the heavies service hours cut.

What is TTC planning on doing with the operators of the streetcars who are not train to drive buses, other laying them off or will they replace operators who are retiring?"? Some of the service hours to be cut in 2021 has to do with no service west of Dufferin St for 501 and 501 due to construction for King/Queen/Roncy intersection and work on them.

TTC has no leverage with Alston that I know of who will fully own BBD in January nor with BBD for cars to be repair on their dime. Both companies main focus now is full filling Metrolinx order since they have a high penalty clause for late delivery than TTC had in their contract for the new fleet. Metrolinx does not have a quarter of their new fleet here for the Crosstown Line that needs to be follow by Finch cars and then Hurontario ones.

Will be interesting to see what happens for Hamilton cars if the line makes it back to being built.

No idea what the penalty clause is for Edmonton order nor how many more cars still need to be built.

Depending on when 4471 and 4478 show up in 2021, they will most likely miss the return date by a year since they were to be here Q1 this year. Both cars are almost 2.5 years being out of service now after being damage in 2018 flood.

Now, when do the extra cars now on order start hitting the production line and hope there are stronger penalty clauses in the new contract than the old one??

Hard to say when 4418 will re-enter service since it be only 20 days since been return. It could early January to March when it can see service again.

Order of return based on being ship.
4478
4471
4410
4412
4427
4413
4416
4419
4421
4604 to 4634

 

[W. K. Lis]

Meanwhile...

Translated "The longest tram lines in Poland."

 

[drum118]

I thought I posted this info before I left over a week ago.

It looked like 4410 arrived unnoticed as well unannounced and was off loaded Dec 11. It has already done some on street testing. The flat was still at Hillcrest waiting for X car to take 4410 spot back to Quebec when I left. 4425 took 4410 spot on the flat on Dec 23 and is off TTC property. 4410 was off site for 165 days and longer than the last few cars. 4412 could show up this week or next week as it 173 day off site now.

4418 has spending a lot of time on the yard service track before I left and is there again at this time. 4410 in the serviced bay.

 

[Allandale25]

 

[drum118]

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To bad no number given for the car. That either 4425 going to Quebec or 4412 heading to TTC for off loading next week.

 

[nfitz]

To bad no number given for the car. That either 4425 going to Quebec or 4412 heading to TTC for off loading next week.

4425 was still in Toronto until Christmas - so it can't be that one. And I'd think if it was 4412, it wouldn't take 3 weeks to unload it.

I'm pretty sure that is 4426 at the front.

 

[drum118]

4425 was still in Toronto until Christmas - so it can't be that one. And I'd think if it was 4412, it wouldn't take 3 weeks to unload it.

I'm pretty sure that is 4426 at the front.

It can't be 4426 as it just going into service on 503 as I type this.

4425 was loaded on Dec 23 and have no idea when CP pick it up from Hillcrest. This could be the transfer from Lambton to Agincourt yard. With the car behind the locomotives, it could be a transfer from Agincourt to Lambton and the car will be drop off at Hillcrest first.

Based on time frame for a car to show up to be off loaded at Hillcrest, 4412 is the next car from Quebec unless it 4471 or 4478 from Thunder Bay. 4412 was loaded for Quebec on July 9/2020 and it been 175 since it was loaded as well being close to the same timeframe as 4410 that was off loaded on Dec 11.

Since the date of the photo is Dec 10, it has to be 4410 since it was off loaded Dec 11.

 

[Allandale25]

^ I think @nfitz was being sarcastic re 4426 as that's the number on the CP engine.