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TTC: Flexity Streetcars Testing & Delivery (Bombardier)

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4418 was off loaded on Tuesday at Hillcrest and currently at the Barns. It was Shipped June 22 and only took 156 days for the round trip. Most likely it will re-enter service in Jan 2021.

4421 took 4418 spot on the flat.

4417 was returned Oct 26 after 136 day and been here 29 days so far.

4410 could be the next car to return since it left June 29.
 
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4417 has Re-enter service on 505 after arriving Oct 26

4418 was doing an in service test on Queen yesterday
 

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Took the streetcar for the first time in a bit and noticed this new module in the gangway between the first and second module. Anyone know what these are for? Potential wifi service in the future?
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Took the streetcar for the first time in a bit and noticed this new module in the gangway between the first and second module. Anyone know what these are for? Potential wifi service in the future?
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Thats the Bill Gates 5G module that disperses covid so we have to get the vaccine with implants
 

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Here is the current list of cars that have or are in the process of being fix and off site

Boy adding attachment and not showing up is a pain.

Will try this
LVR #Date LoadedDate Return# DaysRe-Enter Service# Days
4400​
September 07/2018October 03/2019
391​
November 21/2019
50​
4401​
May 14/2018March 23/2020
680​
April 14/2020
22​
4402​
4403​
February 20/2019February 27/2020
372​
June 05/2020
116​
4404​
October 29/2018March 13/2020
502​
May 21/2020
70​
4405​
April 10/2019February 03/2020
300​
April 18/2020
76​
4406​
May 01/2019December 16/2019
231​
March 14/2020
89​
4407​
June 07/2019May 06/2020
335​
June 23/2020
32​
4408​
June 28/2019May 27/2020
335​
July 08/2020
43​
4409​
March 13/2020August 07/2020
147​
Oct 10/2020
69​
4410​
June 29/2020162+
4411​
May 05/2020Sept 22/2020
140​
October 29/2020
37​
4412​
July 09/2020152+
4413​
September 22/202076+
4414​
September 06/2019July 01/2019
299​
August 12/2020
42​
4415​
May 27/2020Oct 13/2020
140​
Nov 04/2020
22​
4416​
October 13/202055+
4417​
June 12/2020Oct 26/2020
137​
November 28/2020
33​
4418​
June 22/2020Nov 25/2020
154​
4419​
October 26/202042+
4420​
4421​
November 24/202013+
4422​
4423​
4424​
4425​
4426​
4427​
August 27/2020102+
4428​
4471​
April 03/2019663+
4478​
January 23/2019685+
 
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With only 5 more working days this year, it safe in away to say TTC will not see more cars this year returning from repairs. Not counting Tuesday since there is no flats to be delivery to Hillcrest now.

With 4410 and 4412 going back toward longer delivery dates than the last few cars, it saying TTC is not in need of those cars as well 4471 & 4478 since TTC is planning on cutting service in 2021 for streetcars that will see the heavies service hours cut.

What is TTC planning on doing with the operators of the streetcars who are not train to drive buses, other laying them off or will they replace operators who are retiring?"? Some of the service hours to be cut in 2021 has to do with no service west of Dufferin St for 501 and 501 due to construction for King/Queen/Roncy intersection and work on them.

TTC has no leverage with Alston that I know of who will fully own BBD in January nor with BBD for cars to be repair on their dime. Both companies main focus now is full filling Metrolinx order since they have a high penalty clause for late delivery than TTC had in their contract for the new fleet. Metrolinx does not have a quarter of their new fleet here for the Crosstown Line that needs to be follow by Finch cars and then Hurontario ones.

Will be interesting to see what happens for Hamilton cars if the line makes it back to being built.

No idea what the penalty clause is for Edmonton order nor how many more cars still need to be built.

Depending on when 4471 and 4478 show up in 2021, they will most likely miss the return date by a year since they were to be here Q1 this year. Both cars are almost 2.5 years being out of service now after being damage in 2018 flood.

Now, when do the extra cars now on order start hitting the production line and hope there are stronger penalty clauses in the new contract than the old one??

Hard to say when 4418 will re-enter service since it be only 20 days since been return. It could early January to March when it can see service again.

Order of return based on being ship.
4478
4471
4410
4412
4427
4413
4416
4419
4421
4604 to 4634
 

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I thought I posted this info before I left over a week ago.

It looked like 4410 arrived unnoticed as well unannounced and was off loaded Dec 11. It has already done some on street testing. The flat was still at Hillcrest waiting for X car to take 4410 spot back to Quebec when I left. 4425 took 4410 spot on the flat on Dec 23 and is off TTC property. 4410 was off site for 165 days and longer than the last few cars. 4412 could show up this week or next week as it 173 day off site now.

4418 has spending a lot of time on the yard service track before I left and is there again at this time. 4410 in the serviced bay.
 

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To bad no number given for the car. That either 4425 going to Quebec or 4412 heading to TTC for off loading next week.
4425 was still in Toronto until Christmas - so it can't be that one. And I'd think if it was 4412, it wouldn't take 3 weeks to unload it.

I'm pretty sure that is 4426 at the front. :)
 

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4425 was still in Toronto until Christmas - so it can't be that one. And I'd think if it was 4412, it wouldn't take 3 weeks to unload it.

I'm pretty sure that is 4426 at the front. :)
It can't be 4426 as it just going into service on 503 as I type this.

4425 was loaded on Dec 23 and have no idea when CP pick it up from Hillcrest. This could be the transfer from Lambton to Agincourt yard. With the car behind the locomotives, it could be a transfer from Agincourt to Lambton and the car will be drop off at Hillcrest first.

Based on time frame for a car to show up to be off loaded at Hillcrest, 4412 is the next car from Quebec unless it 4471 or 4478 from Thunder Bay. 4412 was loaded for Quebec on July 9/2020 and it been 175 since it was loaded as well being close to the same timeframe as 4410 that was off loaded on Dec 11.

Since the date of the photo is Dec 10, it has to be 4410 since it was off loaded Dec 11.
 

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