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Unionville Subway
This is a proposal to create a TTC Unionville subway line to replace the GO Stouffville line.
It would run at grade, from Unionville Station in Markham to Scarborough Station and then in a tunnel from Scarborough Station under the GO tracks to Pape and Gerrard to meet the Relief (subway) Line. The Relief line starts from the Pape Subway station to Pape and Gerrard and then southwest to Queen Street and west under Queen to University. There will be three tracks from Pape and Gerrard to Queen and University. The Unionville subway will have the dedicated southern track, the Relief line, the dedicated northern track and the middle track is shared by both. The dedicated tracks run inbound in the morning and outbound in the evening while the return trains run on the shared middle track.
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The Unionville subway replaces both the GO Stouffville line and the Scarborough Subway Extension (SSE),
The Unionville to Scarborough stretch is economical because it is at grade. If there were room on the surface of Lakeshore line from Scarborough to Pape and Gerrard for a subway line, time and costs could be saved.
Eliminating the SSE is also a saving.

Markham loses a commuter train but the Unionville subway station can serve as a hub for a bus network.
The Sheppard LRT meets this line. The Steeles, Finch, Agincourt, Lawrence stations will significantly shorten bus routes in Scarborough. Most Scarborough bus routes will run east/west to feed the subway line. As the east/west bus routes run faster than north/south routes transit times will be shortened.

Deleting the SSE lightens the load at Yonge/Bloor.
Deleting the Stouffville line lightens the load at Union Station.


Everyone I've showed it to has a reason not to like this idea.
I'm ready for more.
 

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Interesting graphics. They literally look like one of those "back of the envelope" drawings that many Toronto transit plans originate from.
 

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Another streetcar network map, inspired in part by @DonValleyRainbow's recent post in the DRL discussion, particularly on serving the Portlands and rerouting some routes after the completion of the DRL. http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/ttc-relief-line-proposal-drl.6155/page-432#post-1104118.



The plan here would be to upgrade the streetcar routes to LRT routes, either entirely or those that would make most sense. I included a few extra routes, as well as my own sense of how lines could be routed (so, for example, I split the Waterfront West LRT at Roncesvalles and LRT-ified the old 507 west of Queen/Roncesvalles), but the gist of this is to show the potential for heavily expanded downtown service relatively cheaply. Going from serving about 10,000 per hour per direction to 25,000 per hour per direction along all of these routes could drastically reduce overcrowding and improve running conditions for a wide swathe of the old city.

Ah never mind, figured it out. Here's the link to the Google Map in any case.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&hl=en&authuser=0&authuser=0&mid=zM7XQoNr2gLw.kqPqUuW2w3f4
 

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Does anyone know if their is a place I could find alternate TTC/ Go Maps? I think the one we have could be better and I think some services such as Up Express and Some Streetcars should be integrated. If not what software would you reccomend for creating such a map?
try playing around with this site from Neptis. You can customize maps to include what exists, what's u/c, planned, etc - all for the entire GTHA. You can also overlay some interesting stuff like land use. I only played around with it quickly, but IMO it does a better job than relying on individual system maps. Or dated Big Move visions bandied about by Mlinx.
 

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try playing around with this site from Neptis. You can customize maps to include what exists, what's u/c, planned, etc - all for the entire GTHA. You can also overlay some interesting stuff like land use. I only played around with it quickly, but IMO it does a better job than relying on individual system maps. Or dated Big Move visions bandied about by Mlinx.
The maps are quite nice and detailed, however I also find them to be sluggish. Not sure if it's just my browser or other people notice the same thing.


Recently I produced my own transit maps, which I'm sure a few other people have done as well. I'd be interested to hear what you think.

1. TTC & GTA Rapid Transit, https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zaK28KZzproA.kO19YMSpPS5I&usp=sharing

2. TTC Bus Network, https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=z_jWlQ3EOA2c.kMQg2VW_Z4co&usp=sharing
 

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The maps are quite nice and detailed, however I also find them to be sluggish. Not sure if it's just my browser or other people notice the same thing.


Recently I produced my own transit maps, which I'm sure a few other people have done as well. I'd be interested to hear what you think.

1. TTC & GTA Rapid Transit, https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zaK28KZzproA.kO19YMSpPS5I&usp=sharing

2. TTC Bus Network, https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=z_jWlQ3EOA2c.kMQg2VW_Z4co&usp=sharing
Looks good...my only comment is that for the Bolton line, my recollection is that the preferred routing was along the Barrie Line, then west parallel to CN main line just south of the 407, rejoining the corridor at Islington/407 and on to Bolton. I think their reasoning was that the Kitchener corridor would already be close to capacity (now even more so with RER). Even more of a problem now is that there isn't room/grade to get out of the Weston tunnel and onto that spur (without significantly widening the north end of the current tunnel). Barrie has more capacity for expansion of a new feeder line.

That and Beamsville is slated for a potential station for phase 2 of any Niagara extension.
 
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try playing around with this site from Neptis. You can customize maps to include what exists, what's u/c, planned, etc - all for the entire GTHA. You can also overlay some interesting stuff like land use. I only played around with it quickly, but IMO it does a better job than relying on individual system maps. Or dated Big Move visions bandied about by Mlinx.
Handy tool - I tweeted it out via UT and credited you - I was surprised to see how comprehensive and up to date it was considering how fast-changing the plans are!
 

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Looks good...my only comment is that for the Bolton line, my recollection is that the preferred routing was along the Barrie Line, then west parallel to CN main line just south of the 407, rejoining the corridor at Islington/407 and on to Bolton. I think their reasoning was that the Kitchener corridor would already be close to capacity (now even more so with RER). Even more of a problem now is that there isn't room/grade to get out of the Weston tunnel and onto that spur (without significantly widening the north end of the current tunnel). Barrie has more capacity for expansion of a new feeder line.

That and Beamsville is slated for a potential station for phase 2 of any Niagara extension.
I dislike that routing. I can't deny that the Kitchener corridor may be overloaded but the Northwest corner of Toronto is severely lacking in rapid transit. Something that a Bolton line could provide.
 

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I dislike that routing. I can't deny that the Kitchener corridor may be overloaded but the Northwest corner of Toronto is severely lacking in rapid transit. Something that a Bolton line could provide.
I agree on that one. A 'Humberlea' station at Wilson and an Emery station at Finch (and the LRT) would probably be welcome. In either alignment, I think they were also suggesting a station at Islington and 407, linking to the transit busway.
 

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The maps are quite nice and detailed, however I also find them to be sluggish. Not sure if it's just my browser or other people notice the same thing.


Recently I produced my own transit maps, which I'm sure a few other people have done as well. I'd be interested to hear what you think.

1. TTC & GTA Rapid Transit, https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zaK28KZzproA.kO19YMSpPS5I&usp=sharing

2. TTC Bus Network, https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=z_jWlQ3EOA2c.kMQg2VW_Z4co&usp=sharing
Ah, well done. I still kinda like the Neptis one just because of the different land use overlays and whatnot. I didn't really have a sluggish issue. But had they gone with anything Google Earth-related, I'd avoid it like the plague. Something about GE always messes up on my comp. Google Maps I'm still okay with.

Handy tool - I tweeted it out via UT and credited you - I was surprised to see how comprehensive and up to date it was considering how fast-changing the plans are!
Thanks. I'm still a bit foreign to the Twitterverse (other than following the RoFo debacle a couple years back, and the Dellen Millard trial currently). But I def appreciate the shout-out.
 

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