kEiThZ
Superstar
LRTs, as seen in Europe, could definitely help especially if parkland or the towers themselves are turned into commercial spaces. High concentration of services with a tram line would turn them into Amsterdam-esque tram corridors.
From what I've seen in trams running in around higher density European cities, Hong Kong, and Melbourne, is it is possible to run respectable local service. Of course it's going to replicate a bus, but the capacity will be much higher. The bus at most could carry 50, while an LRT could carry over a 100 passengers.
Toronto is not and will never be Amstredam, Hong Kong or Melbourne. There is no bus congestion along Eglinton today (I presume that's the stretch you're talking about) between Kennedy and VP. Buses today can handle the load. And they have the advantage of providing high frequency.
As for capacity, buses can carry a lot more than 50 people. Artics and double deckers could substantially increase capacity. Deploying LRT on the other hand will reduce frequencies. We are trading frequency for capacity with LRT. We consider both as essential to improve transit. SOS is looking to have subways increase speed and capacity on these corridors while leaving buses to meet local needs. Capacity for local transit will also be freed up by shifting cross-town riders along these corridors to subways.
I think one of the biggest misconceptions put forward by proponents of Transit City is this idea that Transit City will turn Toronto into a European city. It won't. Zoning, density regulations, urban planning, etc. will make Toronto more European. And so far there is no move accompanying the tram lines to adjust all those other policies to make Toronto more "European". In reality, Eglinton will stay Eglinton and will simply swap buses for trams. That's useless for anybody who does not have a destination on Eglinton. Nobody's going to out of their way to take a LRT.
Steve Munro points that out as well:
We don't agree with Steve on Transit City. In this specific example though, Eglinton is not King. The demand is not even close. Nor will it ever be that close. There are no plans to densify to that level. Of course, we would not support trading buses for streetcars on King. But by that same token, it makes no sense to impose a downtown transit model (streetcars) on a suburb. Out in the burbs, frequency matters.
Crosstown trips seem rather unnecessary for that reason.
I don't quite understand what you mean. Are you suggesting that we should not cater to cross-town trips or that citizens don't need to make them?
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