Ford needs to explain the whole MIA thing. State of emergency or not shouldn't be the question, but rather where was he and why could he not be reached for an extended period of time?
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mrtinfoilsocket
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Absolutely. I would have a little more tolerance if something unexpected and unpredictable happened suddenly. But that's certainly not what happened with this storm.
By the way - Amin Massoudi disagrees with that narrative. So I guess we can either believe HIM or Robyn Doolittle's sources.
I know where my money is.
newearthling
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OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
The more that RoFo becomes a popular cultural meme, the more that people could forget that he is a terrible mayor!
Luckily, this is not a real toy.
Edit to add: more merchanidse http://www.blogto.com/fashion_style/2013/12/the_best_and_worst_of_rob_ford_merch/
And yesterday, I saw someone had posted on twitter a t-shirt that read: It's not an emergency. It's a drunken stupor.
The more that RoFo becomes a popular cultural meme, the more that people could forget that he is a terrible mayor!
Luckily, this is not a real toy.
Edit to add: more merchanidse http://www.blogto.com/fashion_style/2013/12/the_best_and_worst_of_rob_ford_merch/
And yesterday, I saw someone had posted on twitter a t-shirt that read: It's not an emergency. It's a drunken stupor.
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TheKingEast
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Baffling how some people think Ford acted appropriately. WOW. Handled this terribly.
BTW: State of Emergency = More Resources. So to tell me nothing would have changed is ridiculous.
BTW: State of Emergency = More Resources. So to tell me nothing would have changed is ridiculous.
ThinkRicky
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Actually no, the selfish SOB's are the ones comfortably going "heh you should have been utterly prepared for no heat or power for three days in frigid temperatures, granny! This is Canada."
You're not Picard. You're that [edited out] copy-Picard that tried to order the crew to fly the ship into a pulsar that one time while the real captain was off being studied by aliens.
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DeathSilver
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My point exactly. But some on here feel it's better to act tough (or Ford dumb) and not declare a state of emergency. Whatever.
DeathSilver
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Well said, or this SOB just happens to have a fireplace or be better prepared than others. Selfish right wing nutjob mentality.
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SecretSquirrel
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I know for a fact that a non-zero number of thread contributors have taken in friends & family during this emergency, but I'm sure it's fun to sit online and whine about people sitting online.
What, "nothing"?
You know actually it probably is best if Ford does nothing. It's when he does stuff that things generally go from bad to worse.
Of course he should have declared an emergency. Patients with dementia have been evacuated from long-term care homes with no power, and there's nowhere to put them. Desperately cold people are heating their homes with barbeques and gas ovens. 911 and emergency services swamped (of course it didn't help that the "Mayor" tweeted that people should call 911 to report downed power lines). Police stations which opened as warming centres are now themselves without power.
The question is: why not declare SoE?
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picard102
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Yes. Anyone who doesn't agree with you is a right wing nut job. Life must be so simple for you.
picard102
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So you think the province is holding back resources on this until Ford declares it an emergency against the advice of city staff?
TheKingEast
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The province is probably waiting for Ford to actually ask for help. Seems like he indirectly asked for help....3 days later. Ford completely misjudged the magnitude of this "catastrophe" and didn't want to ask the province for help when he really should have. But we got warming stations. Wohoo! Crisis averted! More resources means quicker progress and maybe we save some lives at the same time.
TheKingEast
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You're missing the point. If the mayor is telling the province "We don't need the extra resources, we're good over here" the province isn't going to do anything but tell him that they're at the ready if he needs help. Get it?
DeathSilver
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No, the province said they will provide all necessary resources. This was taken care of by DM Kelly since it was clear from the start that Ford would not declare a SOE to remain in power. They just bypassed him. Funny that now Ford himself just now on CP24 calls the situation a disaster. Just a little bit of rain right? A disaster not worthy of a SOE using his warped logic.
mrtinfoilsocket
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Prove it.
Not one single actual source says this to be true.
I'd like to hear exactly what COULD happen that's not happening due to Ford's refusal. I want to agree with you - I really do. The idea that Ford's ignorance and stubbornness is somehow harming the city and impeding the response plays right into the narrative of how much I despise the man. I've tried to find proof that it's true... but I can't. The facts are the city and province are working together and fully engaged in solving this problem and a declaration of emergency would change nothing.
mrtinfoilsocket
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So do we get to hate Wynne for not declaring an emergency as well? Or just Rob Ford?
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