rbt
Senior Member
Yeah, that was my point. Building a west side ramp/staircase is the missing piece to make a bus/tram stop useful for those who can't make the 300m walk to the station without added protection.
|
|
|
GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)
- Thread starter drum118
- Start date
Yeah, that was my point. Building a west side ramp/staircase is the missing piece to make a bus/tram stop useful for those who can't make the 300m walk to the station without added protection.
Northern Light
Superstar
A west side staircase doesn't actually shorten the trip, except, perhaps, if you're in the first car of a WB or last car of an EB GO train.
Its the same trip north along Main.
It does make the GO Station easier to access if you're coming from west of Main, but it does nothing if you're coming from Main Station itself (which is on the east side of Main).
Attachments
nfitz
Superstar
The previous stop at the top of the east stairs at Danforth GO was removed for safety reasons, and the stairs were fenced off. I don't see them adding another one on the west!
It's a 4-minute walk from Danforth GO to Main Street station. Obviously no one is moving tracks. Building a 300-metre long tunnel from the TTC concourse to the GO station is the best hope. And could be faster than many existing underground connections, with a moving sidewalk.
Is it that different than the 200-metre tunnel from the Line 1 platform to Line 2 platform at Spadina station? Or the 250-metre one at Kipling station from the GO Bus platforms to the subway platform?
The tunnel from the Vaughan Centre bus platform to the VIVA platform is 300 metres! Possibly over 400 metres walk if your bus drops you off at the north end of the bus terminal!
reaperexpress
Senior Member
The transfers you listed are among the worst in the system. Achieving that level of connection doesn't seem like much of an accomplishment. Remember that the longer it takes to transfer, the less likely it is that making the transfer will be the fastest option for people's trip. Even with a tunnel, it would not be a very attractive connection and not that many people would transfer between GO and the subway there.
The effect of building a Main Street pedestrian tunnel is that transferring passengers wouldn't have to go up and down as far, assuming it connects directly from GO platform level to TTC concourse level (the TTC faregates would need to be relocated to the concourse where they originally were). It also saves the time of waiting for the pedestrian signal at Danforth, and reduces the number of pedestrians conflicting with buses turning left on to Danforth, potentially reducing delays. These are tangible benefits, so if the tunnel could be built built affordably it could be a good decision. But if it's going to cost a ton of money, there are probably better places we could be investing in infrastructure.
Amare
Senior Member
Metrolinx theoretically could've added a provision for a future tunnel when they sold off the land adjacent to Danforth GO, but instead they sold it for a quick buck without any community benefits whatsoever, in potentially one of the most shortsighted selling of a piece of land we have witnessed in recent times.
There's now a development proposal for Main Square where the city could theoretically work with the developer to secure such a provision, but it doesnt really make much sense anymore since Metrolinx dropped the ball on their end. Unfortunately that was pretty much the last "affordable" option to create any logical connection between Main Street station and Danforth GO, so I dont see the connection ever being improved between the two.
There's now a development proposal for Main Square where the city could theoretically work with the developer to secure such a provision, but it doesnt really make much sense anymore since Metrolinx dropped the ball on their end. Unfortunately that was pretty much the last "affordable" option to create any logical connection between Main Street station and Danforth GO, so I dont see the connection ever being improved between the two.
WB62
Senior Member
Truly a fantastic piece of graphic design. Conveys all the necessary information in a simple and intuitive way.
I’ll definitely look into watermarking my maps, not sure how to do it though.
Thanks! Yeah I try to copy Metrolinx’s style but with improvements, I find the current disruption maps provide little to no information on what to do, and they’re just made poorly in general:
I’ll definitely look into watermarking my maps, not sure how to do it though.
Bordercollie
Senior Member
Why on a Monday?
Bordercollie
Senior Member
Are they going to connect it to the main line?
reaperexpress
Senior Member
I love how the only part they translated to French was "route", which is already a French word.
Sunnyside
Senior Member
I'd reply to this by saying that while the transfer at Spadina is egregious, it is only so by comparison with the various other Line 1/2 interchanges. St. George, which for many is the subsequent stop, is obviously better than Spadina, but there is no corresponding "St. George" for LSW riders seeking Line 2; Main/Danforth is the best we got. Also, consider that the transfer at Spadina is bad insofar that people complain, but those complaints show some people actually use it, and its principle issue is length, not quality. If the transfer is so bad that there's no one around to comment on it, then I'd say that's decidedly worse because no one even bothers to make the transfer.
In any case, the issue seems to boil down to the necessity of a connection not being given serious attention (or that attention not coming to the public light). I do think the logical solution is for Metrolinx to ask one of the developers nearby to work in a tunnel. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they wanted to do it themselves, but I digress. These are the kind of QOL things Metrolinx should be able to easily ask for across the system to make it better for everyone. We can call Metrolinx inexperienced, but they should recognize that about themselves and work with developers- who are building an unprecedented amount region-wide- to capitalize on this rare opportunity to build a good transit experience together, everywhere. Obviously, this is an oversimplification, but Metrolinx holds a lot of 'carrots' to get the proverbial sticks moving. It's one of those urban design things I feel Vancouver has figured out even if they miss in a lot of other areas.
Allandale25
Senior Member
nfitz
Superstar
Yes, as part of the extension to Centennial Parkway. Work is underway.
Allandale25
Senior Member
London-Toronto GO Train service ends, leaving Stratford with fewer options
A two-year pilot project that saw GO train service from London to Toronto ends today, leaving communities like Stratford with limited public transit options.
kitchener.ctvnews.ca
drum118
Superstar
This an example where a section of a train is cut off from the KW train using EMU. As that section departs west, another section from the west is arriving and couple onto the KW train to be the same length going to Union like it arrived at KW.London-Toronto GO Train service ends, leaving Stratford with fewer options
A two-year pilot project that saw GO train service from London to Toronto ends today, leaving communities like Stratford with limited public transit options.
An 3 section EMU would have more than enough capacity to handle the ridership. As ridership increase, you could move to an 4-5 section train.
Bordercollie
Senior Member
Buddy you neglected to understand the fact that you would need to electrify a corridor for a few trains a day.
You could use RDC's or sumitomo DMU's.