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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)

For now, they should at least focus on improving Waterloo-Guelph travel. I can’t stress how frustrating it is seeing the bus schedules be so close to each other, but its still scheduled to be 5-10 minutes earlier or later so you miss that transfer entirely. This hits especially with the GO bus 25 route heading to square one being scheduled to get to Aberfoyle park and ride about 15-20 minutes later, missing both the 29 and 48 in the process, and therefore having to wait 45-60 minutes at a empty terminal. If they at least interlined the schedules so these transfers can actually be done, then transit going from Waterloo Region-Guelph and vice versa wouldn’t be so non existent after all.
 
I don't think anyone ever considered that people might be trying to travel from Guelph to Kitchener via Aberfoyle. Back when I lived in Kitchener, there was a direct bus service to Guelph (along with the less regular 5 VIA trains a day ... later cut to 3)..

Isn't there a direct bus anymore? Kind of shocking that Region of Waterloo and City of Guelph haven't established one.

Hmm, 20 buses a day according to this clearly non-official and probably not reliable site - https://www.busbud.com/en-ca/bus-guelph-kitchener/r/dpwzvb-dpwxpc
 
nfitz said:
I don't think anyone ever considered that people might be trying to travel from Guelph to Kitchener via Aberfoyle. Back when I lived in Kitchener, there was a direct bus service to Guelph (along with the less regular 5 VIA trains a day ... later cut to 3)..

Isn't there a direct bus anymore? Kind of shocking that Region of Waterloo and City of Guelph haven't established one.

Hmm, 20 buses a day according to this clearly non-official and probably not reliable site - https://www.busbud.com/en-ca/bus-guelph-kitchener/r/dpwzvb-dpwxpc
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Nope. Here’s a more reliable source:

seanmarshall.ca

Mapping Ontario’s transit connections

Despite the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, several new inter-community transit services launched in Ontario during the last few months. Every interurban transit connection in Ontario is included in an …
seanmarshall.ca seanmarshall.ca
 
Undead said:
After GO RER and electrification, what is the expected travel time for the Barrie-Union express?
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IIRC barrie line isnt being electrified past a certain point somewhere in netmarket. So the 30% faster travel times that comes with electrification wouldnt apply from the barrie waterfront station. which i believe is close to 2 hours?

You may get many more trains per day or per hour, but its not going to go too much faster.

If someone wants to pipe in here cause i know they are also double-tracking basically all the way and im not sure if this also decreases travel time
 
generalcanada said:
IIRC barrie line isnt being electrified past a certain point somewhere in netmarket. So the 30% faster travel times that comes with electrification wouldnt apply from the barrie waterfront station. which i believe is close to 2 hours?
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The Barrie line will be fully electrified all the way to Allandale Waterfront in Barrie. And according to the Barrie Line roll plans, Metrolinx wants to extend double-tracking from Aurora to Newmarket which could extend frequent 15 min service to Newmarket.

 
I think Barrie to Union is 1h43 or so. If the stops are so widely spaced, does it matter so much that the acceleration is better? Or is the line being upgraded to allow higher operating speeds?
 
afransen said:
I think Barrie to Union is 1h43 or so. If the stops are so widely spaced, does it matter so much that the acceleration is better? Or is the line being upgraded to allow higher operating speeds?
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considering it takes more than a full minute for a current 12 car train to get to max speed (100~ kph) electrified locomotives should have at least a significant impact on travel times
 
afransen said:
I think Barrie to Union is 1h43 or so. If the stops are so widely spaced, does it matter so much that the acceleration is better? Or is the line being upgraded to allow higher operating speeds?
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Well, I was thinking a Hamilton style "super express" skipping all or most other stops could produce significant time savings.
 
Undead said:
After GO RER and electrification, what is the expected travel time for the Barrie-Union express?
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The original plan had express service from Aurora to Union after making all stops from Allandale with a travel time around 65 minutes BUT the electrification update has the "express" skipping only King City and Maple stations.

New stations like St. Clair don't appear on the frequency chart. Increasing ridership will also slow down service over time due to increased dwell time at stations.

It'll be moderately faster than todays travel time, but not a whole lot. So perhaps 90 minutes from Allandale to Union.

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Well, I was thinking a Hamilton style "super express" skipping all or most other stops could produce significant time savings.
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It's a 2 track corridor for most of the length. A Hamilton style super-express would be stuck behind the local trains making all stops for the entire trip.
 
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rbt said:
The original plan had express service from Aurora to Union after making all stops from Allandale with a travel time around 65 minutes BUT the electrification update has the "express" skipping only King City and Maple stations.
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This is absolutely bonkers insane and completely misses the point of doing electrification and RER.

I knew our elected officials would stuff this whole thing up.
 
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