Mustapha
Senior Member
Does it have to be NHL? Why can't we all support the Marlies?
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Dan416
Senior Member
Does anyone in the Southern United States even care about hockey? Like, at all?
jn_12
Senior Member
The Edmonton Oilers and Calgary Flames say Hi.
SunriseChampion
Senior Member
That wouldn't be..um..."aggressive" enough for hockey and too "pussy European" or some such swill. Or not "traditional" enough, not giving your team a completely retarded name. (Penguins! Hurricanes! Ice! Lightning! oooooh my!)
North American team names have been making me laugh since I became cognisant of them.
PS: What I'm trying to say is I love your idea.
Dan416
Senior Member
Penguins makes sense because Penguins live in Antarctica. If anything Maple Leafs (sp?) is a poor name.
jn_12
Senior Member
Soccer clubs have nicknames as well, they just aren't necessarily official. I'm sure in your eyes, some of them would be just has dumb, if not worse: Toffees, Hammers, Gunners, Villains, The Yellow Canaries, Bianconeri, The All Whites, Orange, Gers... and so on.
Can we forget about this whole nickname business? honestly, who cares?
Can we forget about this whole nickname business? honestly, who cares?
paraone
Active Member
The Maple Leafs are named for a WW1 Canadian Fighter Squadron, who had a blue maple leaf in a red circle painted on the tail fin.
SunriseChampion
Senior Member
Yes, I know.
Them not being official names is a big difference, for one.
Also, a lot of those nicknames are related to the club's crest, colours, town and such and weren't created by a marketing department.
I care.
It actually has a lot to do with how a sport is enjoyed and perceived. Business people and marketing strategies creating identities for sports teams doesn't lend itself to character, history, nor an organic, supporter-led establishment of a team.
NHL teams being referred to as franchises and their enjoyment being referred to as consuming by consumers (fans and supporters) is kind of sad.
But anyway, who cares?
ShonTron
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I have an idea - as this is Highway 427 and Highway 7, you could move the Nashville Predators to this sprawhole location and not have to change anything, saving megabucks. After all, it's adjacent to Nashville. I don't think that many people in Nashville, TN would notice either.
Nebakenezer
Active Member
Vaughn will be a disaster, KW is the way to go.
jn_12
Senior Member
Yes, I know.
Them not being official names is a big difference, for one.
Also, a lot of those nicknames are related to the club's crest, colours, town and such and weren't created by a marketing department.
I care.
It actually has a lot to do with how a sport is enjoyed and perceived. Business people and marketing strategies creating identities for sports teams doesn't lend itself to character, history, nor an organic, supporter-led establishment of a team.
NHL teams being referred to as franchises and their enjoyment being referred to as consuming by consumers (fans and supporters) is kind of sad.
But anyway, who cares?
I agree that it's a shame, and natural nicknames are far better, but what I mean is that a name is just that. I don't think anyone thinks of "Penguins" or "Leafs" in the literal way when they think about Pittsburgh or Toronto. I know I don't. I think it becomes a word stripped of its typical meaning in North America, and whether you name the team the Toffees or the Super Dangerous Wildcats, it won't change the image of the team or have any impact whatsoever on fans.
I guess ultimately right now there's no point naming a team that doesn't exist yet, and if they ever do exist, whatever they name them, it won't matter.
SunriseChampion
Senior Member
Not just names, either! The crests are equally tiresome.
You're right that it won't have any bearing on whether supporters and fans that have an interest will develop an attachment but, for me, personally, it makes it hard to take such a sport/league too seriously.
I mean, it all takes "bread and circuses" to a ridiculous new level.
I don't know....maybe my birth certificate lies.
adma
Superstar
Not just names, either! The crests are equally tiresome.
What if it were the Toronto Subgenii?
Now, *there's* an un-tiresome crest for you.
jn_12
Senior Member
uhh once again, thank you for that fantastic contribution Adma. This place would be nothing without your contributions.
Anyways, back on topic, not sure if any of you read the HFboards (which is essentially the top hockey forum in the world) but they have quite a few in depth threads about this issue. If this topic is something that really interests you I would consider perusing this section: http://hfboards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=124 and taking a look at the various threads that are ongoing.
Anyways, back on topic, not sure if any of you read the HFboards (which is essentially the top hockey forum in the world) but they have quite a few in depth threads about this issue. If this topic is something that really interests you I would consider perusing this section: http://hfboards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=124 and taking a look at the various threads that are ongoing.
LAz
Active Member
I would not put another team in toronto, no matter what.
Instead I would put a team in Hamilton.
I also want to see a team back in Winnipeg and in Quebec City.
Some southern US cities do not deserve teams, IMO... no offense to anyone.
Instead I would put a team in Hamilton.
I also want to see a team back in Winnipeg and in Quebec City.
Some southern US cities do not deserve teams, IMO... no offense to anyone.