Dundas St Rapid Transit (Metrolinx, Mississauga, Halton Region, CoT)

[sche]

For Lakeshore, its the portion from Deta Rd to East Ave. It seems the building-building ROW is widest here and would be easier to implement. It will also serve the Inspiration Lakeview redevelopment
Deets:

City Council Supports Plan for Improved Transit on the Lakeshore Corridor

Today City Council endorsed the Lakeshore Connecting Communities Transportation Master Plan.

web.mississauga.ca

Interestingly it mentions extending the 501 from Long Branch as “phase 3 (post 2041)“

 

[drum118]

Interestingly it mentions extending the 501 from Long Branch as “phase 3 (post 2041)“

That came up very early in the process and would TTC be interested doing this??? To do so would require the Long Branch Loop to be rebuilt to allow cars to go to/from Mississauga as well retaining a loop and not going to be easy to do.

If the LRT is to be run only in Mississauga with no connection to TTC, the Hurontario LRT would have to be extended to Lakeshore as a T junction that has been opposed by the local NIMBY folks when Hurontario Line was to go to Port St and then to the Port Credit River. When the Imperial land use surface, it was propose to take the LRT over the river to the Imperial Lands and opposed by the NIMBY folks to the point the Lakeshore Transportation study was undertaken with a lot of opposition to it.

Everything west of Mississauga Rd is low density and will not support an LRT, let along an BRT. Even getting buses schedule for every 10 minute is going to be costly when the ridership isn't there in the first place.

 

[urbanyimby]

RQQ-2019-PPDD-404:Consulting Services Preliminary Design&Environmental Assessment

Metrolinx is accepting Submissions for Consulting Services for the Preliminary Design, Preliminary Design Business Case (PDBC) and Transit Project Assessment Process (TPAP) for the Dundas Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) Corridor

 

[Allandale25]

Posted today on Mississauga's website:

News release

Preliminary Design and Transit Project Assessment Process Study for the Dundas BRT


City building | July 9, 2020

Yesterday, Council approved for staff to enter into a cost-sharing agreement with Metrolinx for the Preliminary Design and Transit Project Assessment Process (TPAP) for the Dundas Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) corridor.

In 2019, the City of Mississauga submitted an application for funding to the Public Transit stream of the Investing in Canada Infrastructure Program (ICIP) focused on developing bus priority infrastructure on a 2-kilometre (km) segment of the Lakeshore Road corridor and on a 7-km segment of the Dundas Street corridor.

The City’s Rapid Transit Office has been working with Metrolinx project planning staff and has released a joint procurement for the Dundas BRT Corridor Preliminary Design and TPAP on June 19, 2020.

The Dundas BRT corridor was identified as a priority transit project for the City, as well as a priority in Metrolinx’s ‘2041 Regional Transportation Plan’. Metrolinx recently completed an initial business case for the Dundas corridor from Kipling Station in the City of Toronto, through the City of Mississauga, Halton Region and the Village of Waterdown in the City of Hamilton.

“The overall work is based on the full Metrolinx corridor,” said Jerry Che, City of Mississauga Manager, Rapid Transit. “Both Metrolinx and City teams have worked cooperatively on a cost sharing agreement and procurement package to advance the Dundas BRT Corridor development, resulting in mutual cost savings for both the City and Metrolinx. The next phase of work for the Dundas Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) corridor will be undertaken in cooperation with Metrolinx to complete the Preliminary Design and Transit Project Assessment Process (TPAP) for the corridor and will include a public engagement plan that adheres to any municipal COVID-19 requirements. Public engagement for this phase of work is expected in late 2020 or early 2021.”

“The City will cost share the components and manage the study elements for the Mississauga segment to ensure they satisfy the City’s ICIP application requirements and timelines,” said Che. “Based upon negotiations with Metrolinx, the City will be responsible for 21.25 per cent of the overall study costs, which represents approximately half of the costs associated with the Mississauga segment. The procurement process is expected to be completed by the end of the summer.”

For more information read the report:

Request for Authority to Enter into Cost Sharing Agreement with Metrolinx to undertake the Dundas Bus Rapid Transit Corridor Preliminary Design and Transit Project Assessment Process

 

[drum118]

Posted today on Mississauga's website:

You will have a True BRT ROW in Mississauga from the east of Mississauga to about Erindale Station where it will become more of an express line to Waterdown.

Will there be a True ROW from Kipling to Mississauga?? At no time in all planing process in the past has there been a commitment by the City of Toronto to allow for a True BRT ROW on Dundas that would benefit TTC as well Mississauga and Halton. To have a true BRT ROW in Toronto would require a number of TTC stops to be removed or the current buses continue to service them. TTC Airport buses would use the ROW.

If this ROW is to be completed by March 2027 using Fed's money, it needs to see things fast track starting with the design of it, follow by a tender and then construction. 2021 will be the big jumping off point for this BRT line.

 

[Northern Light]

Modest report from CBC on the subject of the Dundas BRT.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/metrolinx-go-bus-service-1.5767273

 

[north-of-anything]

I'm wondering if it would be better to have the western end of the line detour to Burlington GO or Aldershot GO. Is there enough density planned for Waterdown to justify a terminus there, or will there be an abrupt drop-off in service at (for example) Walkers Line?

 

[Amare]

I'm wondering if it would be better to have the western end of the line detour to Burlington GO or Aldershot GO. Is there enough density planned for Waterdown to justify a terminus there, or will there be an abrupt drop-off in service at (for example) Walkers Line?

It would make a lot more sense, but for for whatever reason Hamilton/Burlington both seem to be interested in pumping Waterdown as some sort of destination. I have no idea why, maybe there's some Gold that can be unearthed from the lands there that we dont know about.

 

[DKsan]

It would make a lot more sense, but for for whatever reason Hamilton/Burlington both seem to be interested in pumping Waterdown as some sort of destination. I have no idea why, maybe there's some Gold that can be unearthed from the lands there that we dont know about.

I suspect if you look at census data and Transportation Tomorrow Survey, a significant chunk of people are commuting from Waterdown to Hamilton/Burlington and vice-versa.

 

[Towered]

It would make a lot more sense, but for for whatever reason Hamilton/Burlington both seem to be interested in pumping Waterdown as some sort of destination. I have no idea why, maybe there's some Gold that can be unearthed from the lands there that we dont know about.

It's a cute, historic town.

 

[Amare]

I suspect if you look at census data and Transportation Tomorrow Survey, a significant chunk of people are commuting from Waterdown to Hamilton/Burlington and vice-versa.

The problem is, most of them will always rely on their car to commute to those aforementioned areas. Waterdown will never be anything more then a bedroom community for Hamilton and Burlington. The only kind of transit that would remotely succeed is shuttle style service between Waterdown and Hamilton/Burlington.

A Dundas BRT in Waterdown would do nothing for anyone.

It's a cute, historic town.

Which apparently Hamilton is trying to pump as some kind of future employment hub. Waterdown strikes me as a place that doesnt know what it wants to be; there have been musings of it being absorbed into Burlington, then Cambridge, then being it's own city/town over the past 5 years. Officially it's a part of Hamilton, but it has nothing in common with that city.

 

[north-of-anything]

Which apparently Hamilton is trying to pump as some kind of future employment hub. Waterdown strikes me as a place that doesnt know what it wants to be; there have been musings of it being absorbed into Burlington, then Cambridge, then being it's own city/town over the past 5 years. Officially it's a part of Hamilton, but it has nothing in common with that city.

Amalgamating Hamilton was a mistake.

 

[drum118]

The only place a real BRT will be in Operation will be either from Kipling Regional Hub or starting at Mississauga boarder to Erindale Station Rd and then be an express bus in the curb lane to Waterdown. There isn't enough ridership west of Erindale Station Rd to Justify building a true BRT for at least 20 years.

The ridership for Mississauga 101 fall off at Hurontario St and keeps falling as it reaches Oakville to the point Mississauga kill service to Oakville due to lack of ridership. Even Oakville has issues with lack of ridership on Dundas even though an BRT line has been in their master plan for 20 years.

 

[stanko]

The proposed amendment for the Palermo Village secondary plan in Oakville includes a transit terminal on the northwest corner of Dundas & Bronte. I wonder if GO will move its service from the carpool by 407 to this terminal

 

[reteequa]

Why does it show old Bronte as the primary road.... that makes no sense.