sixrings
Senior Member
If you leave many major cities cores the heights decrease dramatically. Although Manhattan has plenty of 80+ floor buildings places like queens are densified through 6-8 floor buildings.
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Dundas St Rapid Transit (Metrolinx, Mississauga, Halton Region, CoT)
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allengeorge
Senior Member
Queens has a much, much denser grid than suburban Toronto. Also, quite often buildings will be right to the edge of the lot line (no setbacks).
sixrings
Senior Member
I am quite familiar with queens and would advocate for that here. The development around sheppard west and Wilson station show us that mid rise or a bit higher can create some good density.
the big problem with streets like Dundas other than their lack of density is the parking lots in front of the buildings rather than behind letting the building push right up to the street like you had mentioned. This makes Dundas very unfriendly to pedestrians. It’s already a loud street to walk on because of its width but I never take pleasure as a pedestrian navigating through parking lots to get to the building I want.
burnamthorpe and hurontario condos have the same issues with these random setbacks. Buildings in a park I guess.
afransen
Senior Member
Frankly, the ideal thing might be to have lower speed 30 kph, narrower urban streets parallel to Dundas. As you redevelop big lots, make a more fine grain block structure, and have the more activated street scape on the side streets off Dundas and parallel.
allengeorge
Senior Member
Also more gentle 'mixity' (i.e. retail on these lower-speed urban streets). That's something I've always loved about New York along with the fine-grained lot sizes and dense, narrow street grid.
Allandale25
Senior Member
afransen
Senior Member
Looking at the route, it makes one wonder if the BRT should not terminate at Aldershot GO, to improve connectivity.
tsm1072
Active Member
As they build it out west, they need to add North-South lanes to allow for good network connectivity. The first phase to confederation parkway makes sense as it can easily connect to Cooksville GO. The second phase should get to Erin Mills Pkwy and UTM, ideally with bus lanes added to Erin Mills to connect UTM and Dundas to Clarkson GO. Phase 3 could be an extension to Trafalgar and lanes on Trafalgar connecting to Sheridan and Oakville GO. Eventually, you will get to Brant, which should also have bus lanes to Burlington GO. The problem with Aldershot, is you have to go up and then back down the escarpment through Waterdown.
Coolstar
Senior Member
Renderings of the BRT stops. https://www.metrolinxengage.com/en/content/dundas-brt-brt-stops
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wopchop
Building Toronto
It is too bad Trafalgar is being redone right now without this. I suggested the same thing.
Amare
Senior Member
I hope Metrolinx is joking with those renderings. I didnt think stops could get worse than those on the Crosstown LRT, but apparently they found a way.
Coolstar
Senior Member
Really? It looks like there's better protection from the elements than the Line 5 shelters.
ARG1
Senior Member
These are a master class compared to the Crosstown, full weather protection and full platform canopies. Sure its no Viva but I don't think Viva should be the standard most of these projects try to aim for.
SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
Another rendering:
Amare
Senior Member
Both of you make a good point, from a functionality perspective this design is better. Aesthetically, this is just down right bad.
Although VIVA's BRT stops are pretty much the gold standard of what to achieve IMO, I think ZUM's design is pretty much the best of both worlds.