TheTigerMaster
Superstar
Doug Ford did try the whole “Finch West deserves subways” thing and it kind of fell flat. Which is odd, because North Etobicoke (including Finch West) presently has the worst transit commute in the City of Toronto.
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Debate on the merits of the Scarborough Subway Extension
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Doug Ford did try the whole “Finch West deserves subways” thing and it kind of fell flat. Which is odd, because North Etobicoke (including Finch West) presently has the worst transit commute in the City of Toronto.
sixrings
Senior Member
But etobicoke was smart enough to put It's city centre on Bloor. Scarborough didn't get the memo, location, location, location, and now wants everyone to pay up for their mistakes.
Cobra
Senior Member
Because being right next to the 401 (busiest highway in north America?) was an idiotic decision...
The things people writes nowadays...
sixrings
Senior Member
Based on how little development it's seen and how long, how much scarborough is begging for a subway...sure I'll call it a idiotic decisionBecause being right next to the 401 (busiest highway in north America?) was an idiotic decision...
The things people writes nowadays...
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
Etobicoke doesn’t have a city centre. It has a cluster of condos.
Can we rename our “city centres” to “condo centres”, because that’s all these failed urban centres will ever amount to.
Maybe that way generation of city staff can focus on more productive matters, like making our avenues plan actually work.
Can we rename our “city centres” to “condo centres”, because that’s all these failed urban centres will ever amount to.
Maybe that way generation of city staff can focus on more productive matters, like making our avenues plan actually work.
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BurlOak
Senior Member
Etobicoke City Centre is at Burnhamthorpe and 427.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
Yes, the glorious Etobicoke City Center. Home to big box stores, a few apartment buildings, and like two square feet of office development. Maybe if we dream hard enough it will actually amount to something (ECC wil never amount to anything)
Cobra
Senior Member
Location wasn't the reason. Poor urban planning was.
Good location, poor execution/no viable vision
sixrings
Senior Member
One could argue poor execution because of poor location
adma
Superstar
Etobicoke Civic (sic) Centre only has one real big box in the immediate environs: the Loblaws across the 427. (I don't consider Cloverdale or Sherway "in the neighbourhood.")
As far as the Bloor zone goes, remember that it never really gelled as a "centre" until...well, it actually still hasn't really gelled as a "centre", knock on Six Points redesign wood.
As far as the Bloor zone goes, remember that it never really gelled as a "centre" until...well, it actually still hasn't really gelled as a "centre", knock on Six Points redesign wood.
BurlOak
Senior Member
Was the Kipling to YYZ rapid transit (ART) link supposed to pass by this location?
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
The ICTS Etobicoke RT system? Yes.
Mind that I’ve never been able to figure out of this proposal was anything more than a politician drawing an arbitrary line on the map, with the justification “if Scarborough deserves ICTS, Etobicoke deserves ICTS too”. Intuitively, I don’t believe there’d be enough demand on the corridor to warrant rapid transit, but maybe it would make sense if it was cheap enough.
I’ve never come across planning rational or studies on the proposal.
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TheTigerMaster
Superstar
This logic is also happens the reason why Etobicoke got a one-stop subway extension to Kipling in 1980. If Scarborough deserves a one-stop extension to Kennedy, Etobicoke deserves a one-stop extension to Kipling. Etobicoke politicians of the day were apparently quite whiny at the prospects of Scarborough getting a one-stop extension, and them being left out of the game.
Despite questionable motivations for building the station, it was a good investment. It cost very little money to build, and relieved bus congestion at Islington Station’s terminal.
BurlOak
Senior Member
So if Scarborough gets a 1 stop extension, will there be a 1 stop extension west to Honeydale (Cloverdale) Mall or 427.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
Council did authorize the study of that extension last year.
Looks like this Scarborough/Etobicoke tit for tat might become an established pattern