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What's the future for the Conservative Party?

afransen said:
A parliamentary system without primacy of MPs is not healthy. All democratic legitimacy flows through our elected representatives.
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Representatives that can currently be elected with as little as ~30% of those who voted; which in turn may be only 60% of those eligible to vote (less in most local races); which means
a mandate may come from only 18% (60% x 30%) of those eligible to vote.

Each one in turn representing that 18% (or, perhaps, if your lucky closer to 30%) of their electorate; which is itself, on average only 1/338th of the electorate of Canada.

Hmmm.

That's not an endorsement of a Presidential model (or overly empowered PMO, as one must concede we have); merely that that is hardly the full extent of the problem.

Nor is making MP/MPPs more powerful anything resembling a complete solution.

afransen said:
If they have a leader imposed on them without any recourse to remove that leader that is fundamentally undemocratic. Rick Mercer is just flat wrong.

To the extent that MPs are nobodies, that is a major failing in our democracy.
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That much I can agree with...
 
Yes, the wheels seem to be coming off THAT float!
"Conservative MPs break from caucus over Ottawa convoy protests" G & M

See Also https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/fed...-special-meeting-to-plan-next-steps-1.5770927 "
"The federal government is calling for the trucker convoy protests to end, and are proposing a special meeting with provincial and municipal governments to plan next steps, including enforcing existing provincial sanctions, as the demonstrations stretch into their second week in the nation's capital.

“These blockades and occupations need to end. Unlawful activities are not the way to offer meaningful involvement in government policy development,” said Transport Minister Omar Alghabra on Monday.

Minister of Emergency Preparedness Bill Blair said during the federal update—the first of its kind since the convoy protests kicked off—that the federal government wants to strike a “trilateral table with municipal and provincial partners.” Blair said that this table would allow the various parties responsible for managing the standoff to keep lines of communication open and respond efficiently."
 
PinkLucy said:
Pierre is skipping the whole leadership thing and going straight to being PM 🤣
https://twitter.com/x/status/1490115382157398030
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Jeez. Here’s how 2022 is going to play out. In April the Liberals present their 2022 budget. The CPC will vote against it, forcing the NDP to support Trudeau. Meaning the CPC has just given the rudder of the nation to the NDP. Nice work you redneck chumps.
 

Talk about a blast from the past.
Jean Charest, the former Quebec premier and ex-leader of the federal Progressive Conservative Party, is preparing to run for the leadership of the Conservative Party, according to party sources who spoke with Radio-Canada.
Charest is fine-tuning a plan for his leadership bid, according to Conservative sources familiar with his plans.
"We have support in all the provinces. People will be surprised by the support we receive, even in Western Canada," a supporter of Charest's candidacy said.
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Charest is what the party actually needs, but he'll likely send 30% of it packing for the PPC too. Not that I'm sympathetic to Conservative struggles, but they are in a bit of bind here. Either they lose some of their party, or they lose a good chunk of mainstream Canada. It will probably take a few elections for this to sort itself out.
 
JasonParis said:
Charest is what the party actually needs, but he'll likely send 30% of it packing for the PPC too. Not that I'm sympathetic to Conservative struggles, but they are in a bit of bind here. Either they lose some of their party, or they lose a good chunk of mainstream Canada. It will probably take a few elections for this to sort itself out.
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Shades of the 90's when the right wing was split between Reform and PC...
 
JasonParis said:
Charest is what the party actually needs, but he'll likely send 30% of it packing for the PPC too. Not that I'm sympathetic to Conservative struggles, but they are in a bit of bind here. Either they lose some of their party, or they lose a good chunk of mainstream Canada. It will probably take a few elections for this to sort itself out.
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If they can't live with Erin O'Toole, they definitely couldn't live with Charest. I think it is pretty clear that the red Tories doesn't have a future in the Conservatives.

AoD
 
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