TTC: Other Items (catch all)

[thettctransitfanatic]

I meant the entire TTC system. It is no secret the fords hate streetcars and love slashing service in the name of efficiency.

Ford is no stranger to hating on streetcars and LRTs. He should stand in the Pilot Project along King for a hour in the morning. Maybe that will change his mind. In addition, yes, remember the municipal transit cuts that happened when Rob Ford was mayor ? Probably will be repeated again, if he has his way.

 

[nfitz]

My mistake. It would be easy pickings for ford to find efficiency though if he took over operations. It may win him votes.

How? If you compare revenue to passenger-miles among big North American agencies, who is doing better?

And unlike, many GO services, the subway is already crush-loaded at peak. It's not like they can simple reduce frequencies.

 

[DSC]

Montreal's electric buses. https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/success-of-montreals-electric-buses-comes-at-a-high-cost

 

[muller877]

How? If you compare revenue to passenger-miles among big North American agencies, who is doing better?
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Simple. Have competitive quoting (including the existing union) for both operations and maintenance. You can shave 15-25% of the people costs pretty quickly. (and right now the unionized TTC is doing a pretty crappy job at managing it so it's not hard to be better)

Then you sell development rights over the stations to encourage transit oriented developments. To cover the costs of accessibility & the second entrance projects. Plus make a tidy profit.

 

[rbt]

Then you sell development rights over the stations to encourage transit oriented developments.

Developers hate building over the subway though. Immediately adjacent to it is the best thing ever though TTC rarely owns that land in prime locations, but going directly over the tunnel or station adds substantially to the cost of construction, particularly if they need to retrofit the station to support their own structures. In many cases the province would need to pay the developer to build in that location.

Those suburban parking lots near TTC stations though? They'll buy some of those but they're not going to build a $50M parking garage in addition to paying for the land.

 

[drum118]

TTC completes signal upgrades between Dupont and VMC

December 3, 2018

As of this morning, subway service on TTC's Line 1 between Dupont and Vaughan Metropolitan Centre stations is operating on the modern and improved Automatic Train Control (ATC) system.

Upgrades and testing were completed during this past weekend's subway closure with the system going live prior to service starting at 6 a.m. This milestone means fewer delays associated with the older fixed-block signalling system along this 19 kilometre section of Line 1.

TTC crews spent 11 months installing the communications system and 323 km of cable. Two of those months were dedicated to improvements to manage trains entering and exiting Wilson Yard.

A video explaining how the new signaling system works and the benefits it brings is available at https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DFcGhkh10Q3I&data=02%7C01%7C%7Caddc7d74658f4d9f081d08d659584c9f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636794633102161061&sdata=P3vPinZh7pR1zFwRUziVyGN56FETVRTJZRqlb7gy8Lw%3D&reserved=0

In addition to reducing signal-related delays, ATC increases safety of the subway, improves travel times and lowers operating costs.

Once fully installed, the system will allow the TTC to run trains closer together during the busiest times of day in order to improve capacity and relieve crowding. As installation of ATC continues, weekend closures will continue to be required. As always, the TTC will advise customers in advance of these closures and alternate service plans.

ATC is proven technology that is in operation at more than 100 subway systems throughout the world such as Hong Kong, Shanghai, London and Paris. Like new systems elsewhere, TTC's Line 1 extension has been running on the ATC system since it opened last December.

 

[DSC]

When do they expect the rest of line 1 to move to ATC? I assume it will be completed in sections, is there a publicly available schedule?

 

[thettctransitfanatic]

When do they expect the rest of line 1 to move to ATC? I assume it will be completed in sections, is there a publicly available schedule?

I want to know too. It seems after this, it would be the section from Spadina-Union, I'm guessing.

 

[W. K. Lis]

When do they expect the rest of line 1 to move to ATC? I assume it will be completed in sections, is there a publicly available schedule?

There would still be closures for the Eglinton Station rebuild with the Crosstown LRT.

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

There would still be closures for the Eglinton Station rebuild with the Crosstown LRT.

I think they said in answers on Twitter that well those closures are in effect they are taking the time to install the ATC signal system as well. Although with that it's only from Eglington to Lawrence west as the train proceeded from St. Clair empty to Davisville and turn around there because the bus platforms at Davisville are too small for them to use safely.

 

[Richard White]

I think they said in answers on Twitter that well those closures are in effect they are taking the time to install the ATC signal system as well. Although with that it's only from Eglington to Lawrence west as the train proceeded from St. Clair empty to Davisville and turn around there because the bus platforms at Davisville are too small for them to use safely.

I always wondered why they never just boarded on the street at Davisville and turned around on the buildup.

 

[smallspy]

I always wondered why they never just boarded on the street at Davisville and turned around on the buildup.

Because Davisville is a far smaller station circulation-wise than St. Clair, and is not capable of handling the crowds.

As well, some of the early closures involved shutting down the power at Davisville (the rest should not unless they've also schedule some trackwork into it).

Dan
Toronto, Ont.

 

[Richard White]

Because Davisville is a far smaller station circulation-wise than St. Clair, and is not capable of handling the crowds.

As well, some of the early closures involved shutting down the power at Davisville (the rest should not unless they've also schedule some trackwork into it).

Dan
Toronto, Ont.

That's true. It makes sense then that the crossovers at College and King are not used to turnback trains.

 

[smallspy]

That's true. It makes sense then that the crossovers at College and King are not used to turnback trains.

But they have used the crossovers at King to turn back trains on the scheduled weekend service outages. Several times, in fact.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.

 

[Richard White]

But they have used the crossovers at King to turn back trains on the scheduled weekend service outages. Several times, in fact.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.

Ah yes I forgot about that. Where did the shuttles run?