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TTC: Flexity Streetcars Testing & Delivery (Bombardier)

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What's bizarre is, that the signage and announcement inside the car, says it's a short-turn, but doesn't say where.

After you notice, you have to go to the door, and hear what the outside announcement or signage say, to know where the short-turn is!
It’s built in to certain destination signs. 504 Distillery is an example.
 

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It’s built in to certain destination signs. 504 Distillery is an example.
It doesn't say 504 Distillery in the car ... you have go outside (or at least listen outside) to find that out.

Similar with ANY other similar one I've seen, when the Short-Turn is flashing endlessly inside the Flexity. 501 Leslie. 502 Kingston and Queen (whatever that exposure is). 504 Broadview (which oddly turns off-route at Dundas not Broadview!). Etc.

It's all short-turn destination signs as far as I can tell. Not just certain short-turn destination signs!
 

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Or 510 Spadina and King, basically anything that isn't a normal route or loop that a car would take in service on a particular route.
Oh gosh, do they have the "Short-Turn" announcement going the whole time southbound? Can't say I'd noticed (though I seldom go further than Harbord - perhaps I keep getting Union cars ...)
 

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Oh gosh, do they have the "Short-Turn" announcement going the whole time southbound? Can't say I'd noticed (though I seldom go further than Harbord - perhaps I keep getting Union cars ...)
TheThey don't really use it as much anymore it's mainly now for cars that are heading back to Lesslie for the end of the day.
 

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"Short Turn X Stop" announcement for every stop going both direction, regardless where it was on the line on Sunday. This was for normal service for the 504.
 

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"Short Turn X Stop" announcement for every stop going both direction, regardless where it was on the line on Sunday. This was for normal service for the 504.
Surely not on the westbound 504s from Distillery to Dundas West station? Otherwise ... yeah ...
 

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Surely not on the westbound 504s from Distillery to Dundas West station? Otherwise ... yeah ...
Oh!!!! Yeesss, sure regret
 

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The "Short Turn" announcement would have been in place eastbound, but not westbound to Dundas West Station.

Drum, if you were on a westbound car to Dufferin, then yes, it would have stated short turn.

These are programmed into the system, so any destination that's not a regularly scheduled terminus (construction service notwithstanding), it would pop up as a short turn.

510 King and 510 Queens Quay and 510 Union are all "scheduled" turns, so they do not have a short turn tag.
 

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These are programmed into the system, so any destination that's not a regularly scheduled terminus (construction service notwithstanding), it would pop up as a short turn.
Any idea why the short-turn location is only announced on the outside of the car, instead of the inside?

More than once, I've jumped on a streetcar that I've had to run to, and not had a time to read all the signage. And then seen/heard the short-turn announcements. And had to go stand near a door, so I could hear the outside-only announcement on where the turn was.

Pretty predictable on Spadina perhaps ... but on 504 anything is possible ... particularly eastbound approaching Broadview, where you have to guess if it's going to go north to Dundas, or east to Leslie (or even north at Parliament ... or south to Distillery these days).
 

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Inside of the car, it says "Short Turn and then Stop X"

4486 is now tracking

4485 is heading eastbound on the Lake Shore near Humber Loop
 

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4487 making its first test run and westbound on Queens St west of Bathurst. Most likely be doing testing out in Long Branch after been here 13 days.

4488 & 89 not tracking yet.

Other than 4487, everything in the service bay.

Wouldn't be surprise if 4483 enter service on Thursday, since it been here 19 days already, with 15 days been the norm these days.
 

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Typical City of Toronto procedures took place today; defer, delay, and stall until the sun don't shine. This time, the TTC board has deferred to make a decision on procuring more streetcars until early 2019:

https://www.tbnewswatch.com/local-news/ttc-board-defers-decision-on-next-order-for-streetcars-982142
Given this an election year, no one wants this item on their watch to lose an election. Then, there is no funds at hand to place a tender, but thats a cop out.

Thunder Bay could see its door close come 2020 with the completion of TTC and GO Transit orders, with any other work going to other BBD plants.

The 60 option cars could go to Kingston or Quebec in place of Thunder Bay.
 

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Hunn!! 4483 operation on route 185-Don Mills Rocket???

Westbound on King At John St at 2:50 pm

4483 has enter service at 2:58 on Bathurst St at Fort York Blvd and to become an 509

LOL.............3:10 has 4485 in service on Dufferin St route 29 northbound south of Dundas. 4472 in service on York Mills Route 95
 
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