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TTC: Bloor Danforth Line 2 West Extension(s)

If they plan to extend the line it should continue to curve south and terminate at Long Branch GO. Sherway is a weak terminus.
 
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Wondering how dependent the north side of the railway is on the railway, and especially if there are track sidings. If not, then the subway tracks could run until they get past 427 and would have to go underground under the railway tracks to reach the hydro corridor by North Queen Street.
 
W. K. Lis said:
Wondering how dependent the north side of the railway is on the railway, and especially if there are track sidings. If not, then the subway tracks could run until they get past 427 and would have to go underground under the railway tracks to reach the hydro corridor by North Queen Street.
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All the northside is plan for redevelopment and no need for RR up to Etobicoke Creek.

The last southside spur is east of East Mall.
 
The report on the Sherway Gardens area, which includes a transportation plan, is going to Etobicoke York Community Council on November 15th

http://app.toronto.ca/tmmis/viewAgendaItemHistory.do?item=2016.EY18.8

It identifies the need for a new transit hub to serve the area, on the north side of Sherway Gardens.

The transit hub is located on the approved location for the future potential extension of the Bloor subway.
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Interesting choice of words.... I'm not knowledgeable - how does an "approved location" for a hypothetical subway station reach approved status?

- Paul
 
denfromoakvillemilton said:
Just bring it Cloverdale and call it a day. Should go to square one, but Mississauga didn't ask.
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Going to Cloverdale for the next 20-30 years is all that is needed down the road

How can you justify a line to Sq One for only 30,000 riders on a weekday at best?? I guess a train every 20-30 minutes would be the norm to carry those riders. Dundas as a whole route see just over 20,000 for a weekday. Bloor see about 18,000 and Burnhamthorpe around 22,000.

Peak ridership for Dundas is just over a 1,000 per hour, with a vision for 2,500 by 2035. Not close to a subway standard of 11,000.
 
Forgotten said:
Stop obsessing over Sherway. It's a dying third rate mall that 100% doesn't need a subway.
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Well, actually the mall itself is trending to upscale. They cater to an auto-centric population that isn't going to ride transit to get there. The ridership to the mall is not going to justify a subway, ever. But the mall principals clearly have the political connections to make themselves sound more important than they ought to be.

The study indicates that the big-box area on the north side of the Queensway (and again, people aren't gonna ride transit to haul their flatscreen TV home from Best Buy) has potential for redevelopment. At that point transit needs will rise, yes. Considering there are good road connections, BRT will handle that.

Some of us have reacted to the Scarborough "Big Bend" as an extravagance. If a subway did go to Cloverdale, and there were good reason to push it further, the incremental cost of a bigger bend to reach Sherway, versus straight line down Dundas, would be an order of magnitude larger. Other than reminding Scarborough that our Bend is Bigger, there is no economic justification for that added expense.

- Paul
 
Next to Square One and Erin Mills Town Centre, Sherway Gardens is the next most important shopping centre for Mississauga shoppers. Its isolated location also makes it a good candidate for a subway for quickly funneling commuters in and out.

If you're going to go through the trouble of extending the Bloor-Danforth Line westbound at all, why not just go one more west past Cloverdale/East Mall-Dundas and bring rapid transit right to the city limits?
 
crs1026 said:
Well, actually the mall itself is trending to upscale. They cater to an auto-centric population that isn't going to ride transit to get there. The ridership to the mall is not going to justify a subway, ever. But the mall principals clearly have the political connections to make themselves sound more important than they ought to be.

The study indicates that the big-box area on the north side of the Queensway (and again, people aren't gonna ride transit to haul their flatscreen TV home from Best Buy) has potential for redevelopment. At that point transit needs will rise, yes. Considering there are good road connections, BRT will handle that.

Some of us have reacted to the Scarborough "Big Bend" as an extravagance. If a subway did go to Cloverdale, and there were good reason to push it further, the incremental cost of a bigger bend to reach Sherway, versus straight line down Dundas, would be an order of magnitude larger. Other than reminding Scarborough that our Bend is Bigger, there is no economic justification for that added expense.

- Paul
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This is one of my favourite straw man arguments.

What percentage of people going to Best Buy do you think come out with a flat screen TV? Or even, anything they can't carry themselves?
 
I still don't get why we can't stick to Dundas. Hell, it's already marked as a rapid transit corridor, we'd just be moving the subway/BRT interchange closer to the Mississauga border, have free space for a new mobility hub instead of ducking around hydro towers, and also provide a convenient launch point for the future 427 BRT South.

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