nfitz
Superstar
To quote a well respected commentator on the subject. They are telling porkies.
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smallspy
Senior Member
1986 to 1994 is not 6 years. And that doesn't include the year and a half it took for them to secure funding (or the fact that the governments of France and England set up the working group to get the project started in 1981).
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
Palma
Senior Member
but its still a channel tunnel vs above ground laying of tracks. lets get serious
Palma
Senior Member
I would have thought 2018
DonValleyRainbow
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Seems we're talking apples and oranges anyway. An LRT line mostly on surface in the city vs. a heavy rail high speed tunnel under the ocean between two nations.
WislaHD
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If this was China, they would build that LRT line in a month or two.
The original poster is not alone in wanting to know where and why that 8-year figure came from. You would think it would be in everyone's interest to jump-start the process and have it finish soon after that rest of the Crosstown. (Or even simultaneously. considering we still haven't even began construction on the surface portion and won't until 2018. That should be enough time to update the EA and secure funding, contracts, etc.)
the lemur
Senior Member
Most importantly, they are now well past Sue Ann's house AND the beauty salon she was writing about. Whew.
News Release
February 17, 2016
Full closure of Eglinton from Black Creek to Weston for Metrolinx work
Eglinton Avenue from Black Creek Drive to Weston Road will be closed to traffic in both directions from Friday, February 19 at 9 p.m. to Sunday, February 21 at 10 p.m. for the demolition of the Photography Drive bridge. This work is being done by Metrolinx as part of the Eglinton Crosstown LRT project.
Signage will be in place to help motorists detour around the construction area. During this closure, motorists are advised to use alternative routes including Keele Street and Scarlett Road.
The City of Toronto and Metrolinx have worked together closely to minimize disruption as a result of this bridge demolition work.
Changes to TTC routes in the area are available at http://www.ttc.ca.
February 17, 2016
Full closure of Eglinton from Black Creek to Weston for Metrolinx work
Eglinton Avenue from Black Creek Drive to Weston Road will be closed to traffic in both directions from Friday, February 19 at 9 p.m. to Sunday, February 21 at 10 p.m. for the demolition of the Photography Drive bridge. This work is being done by Metrolinx as part of the Eglinton Crosstown LRT project.
Signage will be in place to help motorists detour around the construction area. During this closure, motorists are advised to use alternative routes including Keele Street and Scarlett Road.
The City of Toronto and Metrolinx have worked together closely to minimize disruption as a result of this bridge demolition work.
Changes to TTC routes in the area are available at http://www.ttc.ca.
Kevin Hegarty
New Member
Yes WislaHD thanks was just putting channel tunnel in there for light relief !!! but ya would love to know why it will take so long. I know Jennifer Kessmat said one of the primary reasons they are working on all these projects at the moment is that it has been a failure in toronto to work on multiple projects. However, is it not proving that exactly by having such a long time to do crosstown east
smallspy
Senior Member
Sorry, where between Leslie and Keele on Eglinton are the tracks going to be above ground, exactly?
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
coopEng
Active Member
This is all a political decision and a decision to spread the spending of money out over the 8 (hopefully) years. Why build the above grade potion on Eglinton East now when it wont see service until 2020-2021? They have specifically drawn this project out otherwise we would have had completed designs and contracts in place for everything west of Eglinton West Station. The tunnel is complete and they could have been building stations, building the storage and maintenance facility and laying track. Its not for technical or engineering reasons the project will take this long.
salsa
Senior Member
The original question was why is the shovel-ready Crosstown east extension (entirely above ground) expected to take 8 years.
Palma
Senior Member
why does no one call them out on this in public? You would think the opposition parties or council
Palma
Senior Member
its underground between those points, rises east of Leslie and then retreats back underground at Don Mills
coopEng
Active Member
Its probably part of the original deal - Province tells the City how the money will be spent - City doesn't publicly cry about the transit investment.
Off topic, but its part of the problem with TYSSE - some of the contracts are for the entire line, and is one of the reasons why a partial extension could not be opened while other work is completed. I know the point will be made about separate Contractors working in the same area, but these can be mitigated and easily could have been for both the Crosstown and TYSEE - if it was set up this way.