Swarley
Active Member
Seems kind of unlikely that noone at the TTC would have leaked pictures or news... especially since the official word is September.
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APTA-2048
Senior Member
According to people who saw what is pictured above at the APTA Expo, it is just a mock-up of the cab.
At the TTC training tour, one of the employees mentioned when these cars will arrive and when they will run. I'll have to check with someone else who was there who may have taken notes, and then I'll post about it here.
EDIT: Just finished speaking to another person who was there, and the first of the new cars should arrive in the 4th quarter of this year and be in service by mid-spring.
EDIT 2: We also both remember him saying a training simulator is to arrive at Wilson at some point.
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EnviroTO
Senior Member
It is just the cab but I am pretty certain it is more than a mock-up with fake parts. Based on the car bodies I have seen it looks like the cab is built independently and mounted onto the rest of the car.
drum118
Superstar
The first 3 cars are finish in Thunder Bay and been sent to Kingston for testing since they have a larger test track there.
First Train in early 2010 for TTC to test with 92 trains to be here by the end of 2010.
The count down for the H's will start late 2010 or early 2011. Will depend if we get the Pam AM games.
First Train in early 2010 for TTC to test with 92 trains to be here by the end of 2010.
The count down for the H's will start late 2010 or early 2011. Will depend if we get the Pam AM games.
Northern Light
Superstar
That's DRUM!
Thanks Drum!
Always on top of all the detailed Transit News!
The way you arrive with the facts just in time to stop another run-away rumour streak at UT or to hold the TTC or GO accountable......
Has me picturing you as Joe Friday of Dragnet....... (for those that are too young....oh forget about it.....LOL)
Drum da Drum Drum.....
Thanks Drum!
Always on top of all the detailed Transit News!
The way you arrive with the facts just in time to stop another run-away rumour streak at UT or to hold the TTC or GO accountable......
Has me picturing you as Joe Friday of Dragnet....... (for those that are too young....oh forget about it.....LOL)
Drum da Drum Drum.....
officedweller
Senior Member
Thanks.
APTA-2048
Senior Member
And I guess what I posted was just another runaway rumour? I don't mean to start anything, but I find the above statement just a little bit offensive to someone who is trying to provide information as well.Thanks Drum!
Always on top of all the detailed Transit News!
The way you arrive with the facts just in time to stop another run-away rumour streak at UT or to hold the TTC or GO accountable......
Has me picturing you as Joe Friday of Dragnet....... (for those that are too young....oh forget about it.....LOL)
Drum da Drum Drum.....
UD2
Active Member
^^^
ppl believe what the want to hear. Facts that coincide with their assumptions become the truth and those that doesn't tend to automatically be considered as unreliable rumors.
You could still be right. We just don't know.
ppl believe what the want to hear. Facts that coincide with their assumptions become the truth and those that doesn't tend to automatically be considered as unreliable rumors.
You could still be right. We just don't know.
Swarley
Active Member
I don't think that was referring to your post, it was more referring to the rumor that they were already here being tested. Not much of a difference between "end of this year" and "early next year"...
kEiThZ
Superstar
With the H4 and H5s retiring as the Rocket fleet is stood up, can anyone reiterate to me what will happen to the H6s and T1s? Will there be any H6s and T1s on the Yonge line at all? Or will all of them shift to the Bloor-Danforth and the Sheppard lines leaving YUS to be serviced solely by Rockets?
EnviroTO
Senior Member
I'm pretty sure he is referring to the people who suggested the subway was already here and that the new subway would be used on the Bloor-Danforth line which is about as misinformed as you can possibly get without suggesting the new subway car flies.
Swarley
Active Member
The full order of the new cars is apparently enough to replace all the T1's on YUS - that's the only way to install ATC. They'll have to order more cars for the extensions... not sure if they'll have enough to lower headways.
APTA-2048
Senior Member
Thank you to UD2, Swarley, and EnviroTO for the explanations. Perhaps I jumped to conclusions or misinterpreted the comment, and I apologize for doing so.
Regarding the H6 stock, they will still be kept on the Bloor-Danforth line.
Regarding the H6 stock, they will still be kept on the Bloor-Danforth line.
rbt
Senior Member
TTC ordered 39 trains. 49 Trains are currently scheduled for Yonge and you can assume some spares will be required for breakdowns, etc.
So, we have NOT ordered enough to replace all T1s on YUS.
Decreasing headway via ATC requires significantly more trains than we currently run today. (More trains, same track). Assume 1/3rd increase + spares + new sets for extensions.
ATC is more likely to give us the same number of trains as today but with the addition of the 7th car. I.e. we use it for stopping.
This would allow for mixed sets. Adding ATC to the T1s would be pretty trivial (compared to rewiring the tunnels/computer systems/dispatch) too.
Voltz
Senior Member
Steve Munro did a post on this a while ago
http://stevemunro.ca/?p=816
According to him they have ordered 60 trains to replace the H cars, but the TTC will need more in order to get the significant increases in capacity they have promised.
http://stevemunro.ca/?p=816
According to him they have ordered 60 trains to replace the H cars, but the TTC will need more in order to get the significant increases in capacity they have promised.