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building babel
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They'll be back. Especially if YDS offers free gum, chips and Mountain Dew with the Tuesday night movies.
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The Tenor (10 Dundas St E, Ent Prop Trust, 10s, Baldwin & Franklin)
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interchange42
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You're right BB - the crowd keeps on keepin' on, and is flirtatious to a fault. A few more years from now and they'll be huddled below Maple Leaf Square's glimmering jumbotrons, and YDS will have to up the ante with new doodads and pippypoos to catch their favour again.
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tudararms
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Lap dances?
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building babel
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I doubt if dancers from Lapland would be much of a draw.
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Oliver Tweed
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Not much of a draw?!
Have you ever seen those sweater-clad girls do the Caribou Shuffle after a couple of glasses of whiskey n' iceberg? It's hot.
Have you ever seen those sweater-clad girls do the Caribou Shuffle after a couple of glasses of whiskey n' iceberg? It's hot.
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Tuscani01
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A free bottle of water?! FutureMayor and his buddies at MCC better not hear about that idea, or they'll be seducing everyone away from YDS with the promise of two bottles, and maybe even a packet of Crystal Light! And then YDS will be empty again..
You shouldnt have said it, because now its going to happen. MCC in 2 years is going to be tough competition with our 2 free bottles of water and Crystal light.
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Faunus5
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Re: PCL: Metropolis Update June 1/06
Just out of curiosity will the upcoming Maple leaf Square's wall o' jumbotrons be similar to the ones on Metropolis? Will it have signage too?
Just out of curiosity will the upcoming Maple leaf Square's wall o' jumbotrons be similar to the ones on Metropolis? Will it have signage too?
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unimaginative2
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Re: PCL: Metropolis Update June 1/06
It's worth checking out their website to see who's curently leasing the space. Virgin is gone, as is the Music Hall of Fame, and the Boston Pizza with the fantastic patio. In terms of additions, they've pretty much leased the entire subway level, with the usual PATHish food outlets and a mega-Shoppers. The lower two concourse levels are vacant. Adidas took the spot at the corner of Yonge and Dundas, while Modrobes has taken space along Dundas. There are still some vacant streetfront retail spots along Yonge. I'm surprised they wouldn't go before the Dundas locations. Tim Horton's is staying along Victoria.
It's worth checking out their website to see who's curently leasing the space. Virgin is gone, as is the Music Hall of Fame, and the Boston Pizza with the fantastic patio. In terms of additions, they've pretty much leased the entire subway level, with the usual PATHish food outlets and a mega-Shoppers. The lower two concourse levels are vacant. Adidas took the spot at the corner of Yonge and Dundas, while Modrobes has taken space along Dundas. There are still some vacant streetfront retail spots along Yonge. I'm surprised they wouldn't go before the Dundas locations. Tim Horton's is staying along Victoria.
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tudararms
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Re: PCL: Metropolis Update June 1/06
Dundas Square and the above article in the Globe were being discussed on CFRB just now. The article was assaulted, the universally shared opinion of the host and the callers being that the square is a 'dud'. The criticisms were of the type we've all heard here many times; too much garish advertising, ugly architecture and a lack of anything tangible there to see (no sense of place at the place), a lack of greenery and a general atmosphere of the area feeling unsafe, uninviting or unsavoury (somebody called in saying they had seen a homeless person cleaning their teeth in one of the fountains). Although there were some who expressed appreciation for the events and gatherings that happen there most people seemed to feel that a more 'european' style piazza would have been better. There was also a clear widespread sense that the disappointment felt over Dundas Square is typical of the overall fatalistic disappointment many are feeling about development in the city as a whole.
Dundas Square and the above article in the Globe were being discussed on CFRB just now. The article was assaulted, the universally shared opinion of the host and the callers being that the square is a 'dud'. The criticisms were of the type we've all heard here many times; too much garish advertising, ugly architecture and a lack of anything tangible there to see (no sense of place at the place), a lack of greenery and a general atmosphere of the area feeling unsafe, uninviting or unsavoury (somebody called in saying they had seen a homeless person cleaning their teeth in one of the fountains). Although there were some who expressed appreciation for the events and gatherings that happen there most people seemed to feel that a more 'european' style piazza would have been better. There was also a clear widespread sense that the disappointment felt over Dundas Square is typical of the overall fatalistic disappointment many are feeling about development in the city as a whole.
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Ed007Toronto
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Re: PCL: Metropolis Update June 1/06
Boy are you ever a fountain of negativity. And not just in this post but in seemingly every post lately. Is there nothing that you like in this city?
Boy are you ever a fountain of negativity. And not just in this post but in seemingly every post lately. Is there nothing that you like in this city?
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bizorky
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Re: PCL: Metropolis Update June 1/06
Since I'm the type who wanders around at night, I have to say that I have never found Dundas Square to feel unsafe. It is simply too well-lit to be unsafe. As for unsavoury, what aspect of the square is unsavoury?
Concerning the lack of greenery, it is in the middle of downtown. If it were a park setting it would probably be a greater attraction for the homeless than it is now.
The brightly lit advertising is another interesting issue. When found in other cities, such displays are considered as part of the urban fabric; an indicator of the intense commercial activities typical of a city. In Toronto they are considered garish. Go figure.
With respect to architecture, Time Square does not offer the best of New York. So Dundas Square is not an architectural gem. Can't win them all, I guess.
As for the overall fatalistic feeling for the development of the city, that "feeling" is, by far, the most dangerous and damaging thing. The attitude among too many people is that the city has been "done in," and that means any positive initiatives face an uphill battle for approval or even recognition for what they are worth.
Since I'm the type who wanders around at night, I have to say that I have never found Dundas Square to feel unsafe. It is simply too well-lit to be unsafe. As for unsavoury, what aspect of the square is unsavoury?
Concerning the lack of greenery, it is in the middle of downtown. If it were a park setting it would probably be a greater attraction for the homeless than it is now.
The brightly lit advertising is another interesting issue. When found in other cities, such displays are considered as part of the urban fabric; an indicator of the intense commercial activities typical of a city. In Toronto they are considered garish. Go figure.
With respect to architecture, Time Square does not offer the best of New York. So Dundas Square is not an architectural gem. Can't win them all, I guess.
As for the overall fatalistic feeling for the development of the city, that "feeling" is, by far, the most dangerous and damaging thing. The attitude among too many people is that the city has been "done in," and that means any positive initiatives face an uphill battle for approval or even recognition for what they are worth.
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Archivistower
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Re: PCL: Metropolis Update June 1/06
tudar can be a bit of bore sometimes frankly. Who else would take to heart and re-transmit in such detail the opinions of people who call into to radio talk shows? Anyways, perhaps those people who called in have never been to Europe? Not that uncommon to find mostly treeless ad-laden squares in Europe, or in Buenos Aires, New York, Tokyo etc.
tudar can be a bit of bore sometimes frankly. Who else would take to heart and re-transmit in such detail the opinions of people who call into to radio talk shows? Anyways, perhaps those people who called in have never been to Europe? Not that uncommon to find mostly treeless ad-laden squares in Europe, or in Buenos Aires, New York, Tokyo etc.
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papamanjr
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Re: PCL: Metropolis Update June 1/06
the square is young, and it promises to be something much bigger than it is now - obviously. you just have to be a bit forward looking.
once the multiplex goes up, along with all the stores, (and perhaps a flagship starbucks on one of the floors at the Torch?) the square will surely become a destination to see and be seen.
also - I think a massive, and I mean massive along the lines of a U2 or a coldplay or whoever it is that can fill the streets in every direction from the square for miles, would put the square on the map in a heartbeat.
the square is young, and it promises to be something much bigger than it is now - obviously. you just have to be a bit forward looking.
once the multiplex goes up, along with all the stores, (and perhaps a flagship starbucks on one of the floors at the Torch?) the square will surely become a destination to see and be seen.
also - I think a massive, and I mean massive along the lines of a U2 or a coldplay or whoever it is that can fill the streets in every direction from the square for miles, would put the square on the map in a heartbeat.
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Mystery White Boy 66
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Re: PCL: Metropolis Update June 1/06
R.E.M. already did that a few years ago. U2 and Coldplay suck now anyway. Now if we could somehow bring Jeff Buckley back from the dead.
R.E.M. already did that a few years ago. U2 and Coldplay suck now anyway. Now if we could somehow bring Jeff Buckley back from the dead.
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adma
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Re: PCL: Metropolis Update June 1/06
But remember: this *is* CFRB (and if I'm not mistaken, in the Motts' timeslot). Thus one expects the calibre of comments and discussion to be at a sub-Sue-Ann Levy level...
...that is, unless our own luggee was a guest commentator...
Dundas Square and the above article in the Globe were being discussed on CFRB just now. The article was assaulted, the universally shared opinion of the host and the callers being that the square is a 'dud'. The criticisms were of the type we've all heard here many times; too much garish advertising, ugly architecture and a lack of anything tangible there to see (no sense of place at the place), a lack of greenery and a general atmosphere of the area feeling unsafe, uninviting or unsavoury (somebody called in saying they had seen a homeless person cleaning their teeth in one of the fountains). Although there were some who expressed appreciation for the events and gatherings that happen there most people seemed to feel that a more 'european' style piazza would have been better. There was also a clear widespread sense that the disappointment felt over Dundas Square is typical of the overall fatalistic disappointment many are feeling about development in the city as a whole.
But remember: this *is* CFRB (and if I'm not mistaken, in the Motts' timeslot). Thus one expects the calibre of comments and discussion to be at a sub-Sue-Ann Levy level...
...that is, unless our own luggee was a guest commentator...