You are wasting time arguing like babies! Get the plan done!!
I'm pretty sure the members of SOS have a consensus, aside from a few minor issues. I'm drafting the 2nd draft of the report right now.
You are wasting time arguing like babies! Get the plan done!!
When the final plan is done, would it be immediately available to everyone or would we have to wait until a meeting/presentation is given?
When the group members are satisfied with the contents of the report, it will be posted both in this thread and on the SOS website.
gweed123, I suggest we follow RTES for route alignment and station stops as much as possible. That way our plans are based on a TTC commissioned Rapid Transit study, with some modification (like replacing the SRT with subway to STC).
You are wasting time arguing like babies! Get the plan done!!
So if he's not apart of your group, then he must be part of the group?The person that's doing the arguing has declined the opportunity to be apart of our group ...
I'm with Juan on this, we need to notify some politicians/ community activists regarding SOS by month's end. A mention on the news would be great. If somehow we could get some market research study of how GTA residents really feel about the two competing concepts: SOS or TC? ,then we'd have ammunition to present to the TTC/City Hall/Metrolinx. If they can be convinced their votes and livelihoods are a stake, they might just jump at the chance to save face with Miller's folly and investigate new alternatives.
What else will you be doing to make sure this spreads as quickly as possible? Trying to get something in the paper (as an article) would be a good start. I'd like to think that this could eventually make it to Global or CP24.When the group members are satisfied with the contents of the report, it will be posted both in this thread and on the SOS website.
The person that's doing the arguing has declined the opportunity to be apart of our group, and by the looks of things that's probably for the best. If he hasn't clued in by now that there's such things as far-side bus stops connected to station mezzanines via underground walkways; and walking transfers as exemplar by several existing cases in the transit network, then perhaps he never will. I however will stop indulging his need to constantly attack the plan.
I'm with Juan on this, we need to notify some politicians/ community activists regarding SOS by month's end. A mention on the news would be great. If somehow we could get some market research study of how GTA residents really feel about the two competing concepts: SOS or TC? ,then we'd have ammunition to present to the TTC/City Hall/Metrolinx. If they can be convinced their votes and livelihoods are a stake, they might just jump at the chance to save face with Miller's folly and investigate new alternatives.
While you've been turning this into the Duncetrobate Show, and while Juan has been whining twerpily, notice that almost everything I've suggested has been accepted.
Subways were explicitly rejected by the city. If you guys can't even deal with some actual common sense commentary being thrown at the plan, how on earth are you going to get anywhere with Giambrone or Metrolinx or parties hostile to subway expansions? By talking about Miller's folly and listing individual buildings along a route? Facts and finesse will help you, fiction and frothing won't.