Rob Ford's Toronto

[PinkLucy]

My mother had a clean CT scan in August and chemo was stopped. She began having new symptoms in September so a new CT was ordered. In October she was told there was nothing else that could be done. She died in mid-November. Cancer can move fast when it wants to.

 

[davecanada]

I understand that, but my point was that if a CAT scan found no evidence of cancer on September 11, I sincerely doubt he's had another one since. Or that a previously undetectable tumour could possibly grow that much in a month and a half.

My guess is that it is just an infection, nothing major.. at least that is my hope (even on his worst day, I wouldn't wish cancer upon him) I recall seeing a quote from Doug saying "it's not bad news, it's not good news". I think this is a sympathy / distraction from the books play.

 

[JGHali]

I understand that, but my point was that if a CAT scan found no evidence of cancer on September 11, I sincerely doubt he's had another one since. Or that a previously undetectable tumour could possibly grow that much in a month and a half.

He may not have had another screening scan, but certainly could have had one since for some other indication. Like new symptoms.

As for the tumour, the more aggressive and undifferentiated it is, the faster it will grow. Sometimes there can be dramatic spread over a short time. Doesn't mean that's what's going on here, but certainly a possibility.

 

[Roy's Square]

My mother had a clean CT scan in August and chemo was stopped. She began having new symptoms in September so a new CT was ordered. In October she was told there was nothing else that could be done. She died in mid-November. Cancer can move fast when it wants to.

Shows how much I know. :-(

That said, I've always wondered how good Rob would even be at noticing symptoms of any kind. Even "clean and sober," he seems to lack any kind of self-awareness, and has probably learned to ignore or mask the vast array of alarming signals his damaged body must be sending to his addled brain every minute of every day.

 

[PinkLucy]

^^^ Cancer sucks.

 

[the lemur]

Maybe Doug is this:

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/apr/11/dogs-trained-detect-prostate-cancer-accuracy

AoD

6:55

 

[the lemur]

You called it.

http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/2015/10/27/councillor-rob-ford-facing-health-setback.html

'Hey Doug, is it balls-related? You'd tell us if it was Rob's nuts, right?'

 

[Jimmi T]

My mother had a clean CT scan in August and chemo was stopped. She began having new symptoms in September so a new CT was ordered. In October she was told there was nothing else that could be done. She died in mid-November. Cancer can move fast when it wants to.

Sorry to hear that. My aunt was coughing for maybe a month. Goes to the doctor as it won't stop and finds out she has cancer all over her lungs and brain. It can sneak up on you.

 

[John_Dee]

Keep in mind we didn't hear a peep from any doctors, just the Fords.

Exactly. After everything that's happened, we'd have to be out of our minds to take any of the Fords' claims on just their word alone. But even if Dofo has anything real behind him in this instance, all that means is that the Fords are still blatantly exploiting Rofo's precarious health issues for their own personal gain. So even if Thug's not lying, he's not exactly looking good here.

 

[the lemur]

Exactly. After everything that's happened, we'd have to be out of our minds to take any of the Fords' claims on just their word alone. But even if Dofo has anything real behind him in this instance, all that means is that the Fords are still blatantly exploiting Rofo's precarious health issues for their own personal gain. So even if Thug's not lying, he's not exactly looking good here.

He's not saying it's cancer, but then again he's not saying it's not cancer. It's not about the truth.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Exactly. After everything that's happened, we'd have to be out of our minds to take any of the Fords' claims on just their word alone. But even if Dofo has anything real behind him in this instance, all that means is that the Fords are still blatantly exploiting Rofo's precarious health issues for their own personal gain. So even if Thug's not lying, he's not exactly looking good here.

Thankfully I am in the having cancer doesn't make you a saint or otherwise beyond reproach category. In fact, it is utterly irrelevant to his "worth" as a human being.

AoD

 

[salsa]

Councillor Rob Ford facing health setback.

http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/2015/10/27/councillor-rob-ford-facing-health-setback.html

The fact that Ford was still able to get elected as councillor and f*k around is a health setback if you ask me.

 

[JWBF]

Abject apologies, but I've got a monster head cold and when my mind wanders I don't know where it will go. Lately I've been kinda obsessing about the "Quiet" Ford Bro, Randy. Out of the limelight, never heard from, but "the friendly guy" when he's not chemically supercharged into violent rages. The oldest brother so what's his relationship with Doug like? Doug's the businessman, the entrepreneur, is Randy the low profile "fixer", not the guy that makes the deals but the one that facilitates them? All we know about him is his ancient history of crude and crazed violence, that he's the guy that escorts mom, and the one in the office at Deco. Is he the one that's really takin' care of business?

My theory is that Randy is a ~65/35 mix of Robbie and Dougie, or rather Robbie is 65% and Dougie is 35% of Randy's personality since he's older . Like Dougie and Robbie, he is a thug, but a thug with a criminal record due to mommy and daddy not being able to cover up his activities. I'm sure this has and is an asset for the Fords.

Doug's fealty to Diane to more than a dutiful son would show to their mom, I think it has a lot to do with his inheritance and access to the trust Diane controls. And yes it is true, we all make poor choices, it's all how we move on from them and hopefully we see them as a learning experience.

I accept your apology? I was making a joke, and evidently not a too convincing one, so all's well. Being obsessed is something I can easily understand, especially about matters like the "Fords", the poster family for all things devious.

 

[riffraff]

Keep in mind we didn't hear a peep from any doctors, just the Fords.

And we probably won't - patient confidentiality aside, Remember what happened the last time one spoke publicly about this patient. I'm hoping a doc spoke to Doug about the STFU thing. CBC stated this morning that Rob will be making a statement in few days. I bet we can't wait.

 

[PinkLucy]

Rob will be making a statement in few days. I bet we can't wait.

That gives him enough time to come up with his story, have someone write it up for him (using small words), and transcribe it in a large enough font that he can read it.