SunriseChampion
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I'm sure you are right. Just wishful thinking.
That's beyond wishful thinking. Sorry to bear bad news, but the guy ain't exactly a 23 year old with no psychological trauma who on occasion binge drinks on the week-end.
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That's beyond wishful thinking. Sorry to bear bad news, but the guy ain't exactly a 23 year old with no psychological trauma who on occasion binge drinks on the week-end.
CalgarianExOntarian
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I love that. That is so good. 60+, sorta-conservative guy appointed Deputy Mayor by none other than RoFo himself, is (A) doing the right thing for LGBT ppl, (B) making Toronto and Canada look good and (C) getting in the face of Rob and Doug as fast and hard as he can.
EagleEye
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He's over 70, I think. I'm really impressed with what he's done since November.
TJ O'Pootertoot
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It works wonder for those who are sincerely willing and able to get better and accepting of their own vulnerability. Most of us (I think) don't want to see him dead in a ditch and so we'd like to think this is really what he's going through. But, sadly, the statement they put out gives no sense of rock bottom and there is clearly a lot of skepticism here. I'd like to think he's really in rehab but....I can't be sure, and that's his fault, not mine.
30 days can be enough to detox but it wouldn't be enough to get on a new path unless Rob has a real breakthrough. I don't know about anyone else here but I'm not a shrink. That said, I think it's pretty clear he suffers from narcissism, mommy issues, daddy issues, pathological lying and who knows what else on top of the substance issues. He, very sincerely, needs ongoing therapy and, again, that's not going to have any meaning unless he is sincerely committed to it.
There is nothing we've seen in his personality that suggests he's capable of that kind of breakthrough but I'd like to think he's actually had it. This city will go on, and he will lose and I don't forgive or condone what he's done to this city. But simply as a human being, I have no desire to open my paper one day in the next few months and hear the he OD'd or jumped off a bridge or had a heart attack. So, in that context I wish I could believe he's really starting to get right. I'm hovering around 50/50 right now.
sno man
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newearthling, clear your messages. ;^)
EagleEye
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Dale's comments are on his feed. He just stopped talking to the guy because he was ridiculous.
CalgarianExOntarian
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Comments are still visible on my Android tablet, even after multiple refreshes. But they're invisible on Chrome, Safari and Firefox on my Mac, which is why I said that the rebuttals were apparently deleted. To clarify, as much as possible, I really don't know what happened to Dale's replies to Amitay. I don't have a twitter account, so can't say anything about how things might look to twitter users.
However, I will say that I read several Dale-to-Amitay tweets, and I think Dale was eloquent, pertinent, right, and other-worldly patient every time.
Kat's Meow
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I think it's dangerous to believe only simple minded people find Ford appealing. For example, a friend in his 40s with a degree in engineering, a masters in business, a business owner and Italian, still supports Ford even today. I shake my head unable to understand. I have sent him links to 2 articles by Matt Elliott debunking Ford's claims and robfordfacts. We'll see if that changes his mind. Not holding my breath because if everything to date hasn't changed support level I have no idea what will.
Les Nessman
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ys-history-with-drug-dealing/article12153014/
Just keeping things alive.
Just keeping things alive.
CalgarianExOntarian
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While we're waiting, anybody want to post a hypothetical transcript of Robbo's visit to God's own clinic? I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person interested in the back-and-forth between Rob and the being-in-charge ...
Seriously, the best outcome for every atom in the universe, except some atoms belonging to Doug Ford, is that Rob finally comprehends reality and reserves time from now until 2016 or beyond to get his shit together. I am not holding my breath about that. Much more likely, Rob comes back to T.O. in June 2014 and takes everything to the next more horrible level.
sublime
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While we're waiting, anybody want to post a hypothetical transcript of Robbo's visit to God's own clinic? I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person interested in the back-and-forth between Rob and the being-in-charge ...
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anne
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A couple of nagging thoughts.
1.) Did anyone in the Ford camp ever say the word rehab? I heard "professional help". I have only heard the media speculate about Rehab. Further, many here have pointed out that they have never actually admitted to a problem with drugs - only alcohol.
2.) Has anyone else considered the possibility that the Ford family may be trying to pull the plug on Rob the politician because it has become painfully obvious that he can't win the election? Despite the public bravado and attempts to pretend that they have any real chance of winning the election, the only person who probably believes it still is Rob himself. The rest are a little smarter and must be seeing the writing on the wall by now. The support they enjoyed in the last election has eroded. The business community, high profile conservatives, everyone but the hardest core bat-shit crazy wing-nuts have abandoned them.
As the Fords are incapable of admitting defeat, humility or going out with grace, it would not surprise me if their idea of getting out while saving face was to pull Rob out of town, concoct a vague story to remove him, and then in 30 days Doug could return to say that the problem is too complicated to solve in 30 days Doug could come out to announce that Rob really wants to continue but his doctors insist that he must continue his vague "professional help".
With Rob going on benders every weekend, barely working, going out on his own to be photographed with young girls and jumping into cabs with strangers, getting caught smoking crack, he has become a loose cannon and even Doug has to be put off by his behaviour. The new video and audio, the corruption rumours with lobbyist Musik, the ongoing criminal investigation have all but assured a bleak future for Rob's political chances.
Rob is showing signs that he has lost interest in being Mayor. Doug still has ambitions and (erroneously) believes he has a shot at a future in politics. Showing himself as the doting brother during this difficult time frames him as a good family man (a conservative wet dream). Win-win for both of them if you ask me.
1.) Did anyone in the Ford camp ever say the word rehab? I heard "professional help". I have only heard the media speculate about Rehab. Further, many here have pointed out that they have never actually admitted to a problem with drugs - only alcohol.
2.) Has anyone else considered the possibility that the Ford family may be trying to pull the plug on Rob the politician because it has become painfully obvious that he can't win the election? Despite the public bravado and attempts to pretend that they have any real chance of winning the election, the only person who probably believes it still is Rob himself. The rest are a little smarter and must be seeing the writing on the wall by now. The support they enjoyed in the last election has eroded. The business community, high profile conservatives, everyone but the hardest core bat-shit crazy wing-nuts have abandoned them.
As the Fords are incapable of admitting defeat, humility or going out with grace, it would not surprise me if their idea of getting out while saving face was to pull Rob out of town, concoct a vague story to remove him, and then in 30 days Doug could return to say that the problem is too complicated to solve in 30 days Doug could come out to announce that Rob really wants to continue but his doctors insist that he must continue his vague "professional help".
With Rob going on benders every weekend, barely working, going out on his own to be photographed with young girls and jumping into cabs with strangers, getting caught smoking crack, he has become a loose cannon and even Doug has to be put off by his behaviour. The new video and audio, the corruption rumours with lobbyist Musik, the ongoing criminal investigation have all but assured a bleak future for Rob's political chances.
Rob is showing signs that he has lost interest in being Mayor. Doug still has ambitions and (erroneously) believes he has a shot at a future in politics. Showing himself as the doting brother during this difficult time frames him as a good family man (a conservative wet dream). Win-win for both of them if you ask me.
salsa
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casita
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CalgarianExOntarian
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Wow, that feed is hilarious, e.g.,
... but so far does not say Jack about RoFo's rehab progress.
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