11th
Senior Member
That may not be the best comparison. At least for that specific example, there is a second regular exit information sign after that diagrammatic one. That one shows two arrows with "Exit" printed below.
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Roads: Ontario/GTA Highways Discussion
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Deadpool X
Active Member
Those arrows are right where the lanes are forking. People need to prepare in advance and move to the correct lane at least 1 km before the road forks.
11th
Senior Member
Not sure which picture you are referring to, but this is the sign that comes after the diagrammatic sign:
https://goo.gl/maps/FW8yVZ7nY2HoQmvx5
Then this one at the actual split:
https://goo.gl/maps/nxztgS137xeMHyBdA
The BC example serves the same role as our regular exit sign, albeit with more lanes information.
lenaitch
Senior Member
I get what you are saying but I have encountered (I can't recall where - likely not this location) where the advance sign says, for example, two right lanes exit, so I position in Lane 2 - then another lane is added so now I'm in Lane 3 and have to move over. Sure we have to constantly monitor, but in heavy traffic, later moves can be difficult.
Deadpool X
Active Member
At many places, the first sign is not there. I don't remember any example though. Although, I don't like the concept of treating collector lanes as highway exit. You are not exiting the highway. This sign doesn't need the word exit written there.
mrgrieves
Active Member
It signs like this (https://goo.gl/maps/hHomtfw7P5C1RijU9) that are terrible. This is on 400 South approaching 401.
It should say under East (Scarborough / Kingston) and under West (Mississauga / London).
It should say under East (Scarborough / Kingston) and under West (Mississauga / London).
nfitz
Superstar
Or even add some highway numbers beyond. 427 and DVP perhaps for those driving in from the north.
Here's a good example from Montreal of what it could say.
whydidimakethis
New Member
JasonParis
Moderator
What's with the yellow? I realize it's probably painfully obvious, but I can't think of why?!?
Steve X
Senior Member
All the signs regarding the Thousand Island Parkway are signed yellow on green including cross intersection signs on the parkway. It's truly unique.
JasonParis
Moderator
Ahhh, it made me think of a National Park at first, but that didn't quite make sense either.
Having said that, the yellow to denote a municipal freeway could make sense. Those at the scale of the Gardiner, Lincoln Alexander, DVP, etc.
Having said that, the yellow to denote a municipal freeway could make sense. Those at the scale of the Gardiner, Lincoln Alexander, DVP, etc.
whydidimakethis
New Member
There's a good reason why those highways appear on those signs- because that's literally the only thing they serve west of Montreal. Nothing significant on either 20 or 40 until the 401/417. The reason 20 is on that sign is because that short section of the 30 is essentially just a giant off ramp to switch between the parallel highways. For connecting highways like that, we already have the 407 VIA 4xx signs in Ontario as seen on the 412/418. Now, the VIA would not make sense on the 401, because that would imply that it is just connecting the two routes and the sole purpose of the highway is to get to it. Maybe something like the "to xx" sign would work. Personally I think the "Downtown Toronto via 427" signs on the 401 serve that purpose.Or even add some highway numbers beyond. 427 and DVP perhaps for those driving in from the north.
Here's a good example from Montreal of what it could say.
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nfitz
Superstar
I bet the majority of those on 400 heading west also only go a short distance - to 409 or 427. An airport symbol would help too.
Also heading the junction to the west is the 30 ... which one could take all the way to Sorel (unlikely) or to other south-shore destinations (quite likely for those that live near the 40 in Vaudreuil - or even at the very west of the island; heading down Decarie or the 13 and 20 to the Champlain Bridge is often too busy.
Bottom line, is that I agree that the signage to 400/401 is insufficient.
There's other gems around here; most people wanting to get downtown, surely go to the middle, when they should go to the right - which leads to both the QEW East AND West.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
except it doesn't as there isn't a direct connection from the 403 sb to QEW eb. So that signage is accurate.
nfitz
Superstar
Ah that's true - I just use Ford Drive without thinking about it. (when the heck are they going to build that - they've been talking about it for decades)
It's still very confusing - where's the east sign for the 403?