Thinker
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Only to be fluffed off as fake news and denials from those who are involved.
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Premier Doug Ford's Ontario
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Only to be fluffed off as fake news and denials from those who are involved.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Doug Ford doesn't like libraries, so he will not read it.
Midtown Urbanist
Superstar
A reminder that we could have had Patrick Brown as premier.
Northern Light
Superstar
Its worth saying that only really looks good by way of comparison to who we ended up with as Premier.
PB was almost certainly 'knifed' by fellow Conservatives and hit with allegations that were at least somewhat exaggerated or misrepresented.
However, his assent to power in the party was also not free of controversy; his political past, suggestive of an opportunist and chameleon.
It is truly unfortunate that all of that sounds like an upgrade on our current situation.
The platform he was set to run was infinitely more sensible than what Mr. Ford passed off as one.
Though I'm less than fully convinced it would have been fully honoured.
SunriseChampion
Senior Member
^I was thinking that too whilst reading that article.
I'm on Brown's side. I think he was ousted by the crotchety anti-social bags in the party. Seems to be the case, I haven't much proof to go on.
We could have had a decent government, but it seems a lot of the party establishment weren't interested in a fresh and more liberal approach.
Sucks to be us. We're stuck with an illiberal band of wannabe autocrats instead.
I guess they didn't take kindly to Brown trying to wrest control of the party from its more illiberal members of prominence.
I'm on Brown's side. I think he was ousted by the crotchety anti-social bags in the party. Seems to be the case, I haven't much proof to go on.
We could have had a decent government, but it seems a lot of the party establishment weren't interested in a fresh and more liberal approach.
Sucks to be us. We're stuck with an illiberal band of wannabe autocrats instead.
I guess they didn't take kindly to Brown trying to wrest control of the party from its more illiberal members of prominence.
Videodrome
Senior Member
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Not surprising.
SunriseChampion
Senior Member
Is there a similar regulation in regards to alcohol shops?
Nope. Why not? The social dangers of alcohol make ganja look like a cup of Earl Grey tea.
If alcohol can be sold within 150m of schools, why shouldn't ganja be allowed in similar proximity?
Get this: one can buy weed at school.
The proximity regulation was always hypocritical and irrational pandering to the ignorant War on Drugs busybody morality goon squad.
Good riddance.
Now only if they'd get rid of irrational drugs policy altogether.
Lol, just kidding.....better to have murderous criminals in charge of the whole enterprise. It's more exciting that way....or whatever the mentally stunted rationale is.
Nope. Why not? The social dangers of alcohol make ganja look like a cup of Earl Grey tea.
If alcohol can be sold within 150m of schools, why shouldn't ganja be allowed in similar proximity?
Get this: one can buy weed at school.
The proximity regulation was always hypocritical and irrational pandering to the ignorant War on Drugs busybody morality goon squad.
Good riddance.
Now only if they'd get rid of irrational drugs policy altogether.
Lol, just kidding.....better to have murderous criminals in charge of the whole enterprise. It's more exciting that way....or whatever the mentally stunted rationale is.
Northern Light
Superstar
I liked both of these posts and don't see that as a contradiction. The former calls out hypocrisy and duplicity; while the latter decries stupidity.
SunriseChampion
Senior Member
Wait, I completely forgot......there is at least a proximity regulation in regards to nicotine product sales near schools.
Oh, no, wait, there isn't. Probably because nicotine is a highly addictive substance and ganja isn't. Makes sense.
Who takes these people seriously? I feel like I'm being trolled by the most dangerous trolls ever. The War on Drugs Morality Trolls leave a wake of destoyed lives in the form of dead and imprisoned everywhere they implement their corrupt morality.
Gunshots in our streets, whole Latin American countries barely habitable for the murders, lack of harm reduction leading to overdose deaths due to impurities, kids imprisoned and saddled with criminal records for selling plant material.
And we're supposed to be worried about proximity to schools?
Oi, society, your priorities are fucked.
Oh, no, wait, there isn't. Probably because nicotine is a highly addictive substance and ganja isn't. Makes sense.
Who takes these people seriously? I feel like I'm being trolled by the most dangerous trolls ever. The War on Drugs Morality Trolls leave a wake of destoyed lives in the form of dead and imprisoned everywhere they implement their corrupt morality.
Gunshots in our streets, whole Latin American countries barely habitable for the murders, lack of harm reduction leading to overdose deaths due to impurities, kids imprisoned and saddled with criminal records for selling plant material.
And we're supposed to be worried about proximity to schools?
Oi, society, your priorities are fucked.
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Midtown Urbanist
Superstar
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-pc-fall-economic-outlook-cuts-tax-lcbo-1.4906718
Silver lining being the exemption from rent control in new rental units.
Northern Light
Superstar
Fall Economic Statement 2018: Details can be found on the gov't page here:
https://www.fin.gov.on.ca/fallstatement/2018/contents.html
Details to follow
https://www.fin.gov.on.ca/fallstatement/2018/contents.html
Details to follow
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AlvinofDiaspar
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I wonder what's the fine print around the low income tax cut is - actual full-time work at minimum wage isn't nearly as common as multiple part-time jobs.
Wrong link!
AoD
Wrong link!
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Northern Light
Superstar
Signature Items:
New tax credit to eliminate provincial income tax for those making at or below $30,000 in income. Value to someone exactly at 30k in earnings $850 per year.
Tax credit phases out for single earners at $38,500 (credit value drops by $100 for each $1,000 earned over $30,000)
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They are also eliminating the surtax for high-income earning introduced in the last budget.
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Hydro rates to drop a further 12%.
Thunder Bay Generation Station to close (only operated 2.5 days last year)
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Deficit projected at 14.5B for the current fiscal year.
This number will be lower.
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Here's a good one (seriously)
The Province is providing funding to expand the scope and coverage of Rapid Access Addiction Medicine (RAAM) clinics for individuals with substance abuse issues that require specialized, evidenced-based addiction medicine support by creating new or expanded RAAMs in communities of high need.
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Province moving to restart GTA West Highway EA
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New Rental construction will again be exempt from rent control
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LCBO, Beer Store and other alcohol retail hours expanded to (up to) 9am-11pm, 7 days per week. I must admit, I like this one.
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Car insurance rates will not longer vary by address of the owner.
Also look for regulatory permission for electronic proof of insurance (the beginning of the end of the pink paper)
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Lots of 'more to come' promises, including social assistance reform being detailed next week, ontario drug benefit program review, comprehensive housing supply plan (spring 2019), and review of Northern ON transportation including rail , no specifics or dates
New tax credit to eliminate provincial income tax for those making at or below $30,000 in income. Value to someone exactly at 30k in earnings $850 per year.
Tax credit phases out for single earners at $38,500 (credit value drops by $100 for each $1,000 earned over $30,000)
***
They are also eliminating the surtax for high-income earning introduced in the last budget.
***
Hydro rates to drop a further 12%.
Thunder Bay Generation Station to close (only operated 2.5 days last year)
***
Deficit projected at 14.5B for the current fiscal year.
This number will be lower.
***
Here's a good one (seriously)
The Province is providing funding to expand the scope and coverage of Rapid Access Addiction Medicine (RAAM) clinics for individuals with substance abuse issues that require specialized, evidenced-based addiction medicine support by creating new or expanded RAAMs in communities of high need.
***
Province moving to restart GTA West Highway EA
***
New Rental construction will again be exempt from rent control
***
LCBO, Beer Store and other alcohol retail hours expanded to (up to) 9am-11pm, 7 days per week. I must admit, I like this one.
***
Car insurance rates will not longer vary by address of the owner.
Also look for regulatory permission for electronic proof of insurance (the beginning of the end of the pink paper)
***
Lots of 'more to come' promises, including social assistance reform being detailed next week, ontario drug benefit program review, comprehensive housing supply plan (spring 2019), and review of Northern ON transportation including rail , no specifics or dates
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Midtown Urbanist
Superstar
Predictably, everyone I see on social media is talking about LCBO. Even the more progressive circles I'm in that I would have thought would be crying about rent control and the tax changes.
I am 100% for the extended LCBO hours, but it hasn't ceased to amaze me this year how much success our Premier has had with distracting the population with alcohol. Even more disturbing as Druggie is a teetotaller. My uncle used to tell me as a kid, "never trust a man who doesn't drink" and I think that is fine advice here. (and no, Winston Churchill is not my uncle, my uncle just happens to be Polish.)
I am 100% for the extended LCBO hours, but it hasn't ceased to amaze me this year how much success our Premier has had with distracting the population with alcohol. Even more disturbing as Druggie is a teetotaller. My uncle used to tell me as a kid, "never trust a man who doesn't drink" and I think that is fine advice here. (and no, Winston Churchill is not my uncle, my uncle just happens to be Polish.)
syn
Senior Member
I like a few things, but overall this isn't good.
The reduction in rent control along with reductions in government oversight are big problems.
They can complain about the Liberals mishandling of the budget, but we're going to have to pay for a 12% reduction in hydro rates at some point.
It's amazing how this new brand of Conservatives always seem to find 'savings' off the back our most vulnerable members of society.
The reduction in rent control along with reductions in government oversight are big problems.
They can complain about the Liberals mishandling of the budget, but we're going to have to pay for a 12% reduction in hydro rates at some point.
It's amazing how this new brand of Conservatives always seem to find 'savings' off the back our most vulnerable members of society.