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animatronic

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There have been a few requests to fork the Rob Ford thread so that all the Doug Ford stuff stands on its own. So, here's your chance. Post all of the Doug Ford mayoral comments here and leave Rob's thread for Rob.

If it turns out that the community doesn't want to split things up we can just merge this discussion back into the main thread. Make sense?

Alternately, we can make this the "2018 Mayoral Race" thread and host all of the candidate discussions here.
 

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Since Doug Ford has his own thread now, I'll respond to a post in the Rob Ford thread here.

Then don't feed into it.

His memory is of his younger if not littler brother. If you have a younger sibling, you know what I mean.

My memory is of a badly educated, out of his element, unsophisticated, impulsive, generally out-of-control, substance-abusing, behavior-on-edge-of-petty-criminal adult. If someone wants to lead a campaign in memory / honour of that, so be it. I hope all the memories flood back and that the electorate can see the difference. Bring it on.
Yes I do, and I do know what you mean. And if one of my brothers died from cancer the last thing I'd do is continually dredge up his memory to score cheap political points.

You do make a good point though - as long as the memory of Rob is fresh in people's minds, Doug won't be doing himself any favours by constantly reminding people of him. Donald Trump south of the border won't be helping his case either, since Doug Ford is basically a low rent Trump.
 

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Since Doug Ford has his own thread now, I'll respond to a post in the Rob Ford thread here.


Yes I do, and I do know what you mean. And if one of my brothers died from cancer the last thing I'd do is continually dredge up his memory to score cheap political points.

You do make a good point though - as long as the memory of Rob is fresh in people's minds, Doug won't be doing himself any favours by constantly reminding people of him. Donald Trump south of the border won't be helping his case either, since Doug Ford is basically a low rent Trump.
The best way to counter that is never mention Rob. Don't bring up the crack, don't bring up Doug's defense of his brother. Doug has done nothing in the last 7 years - let him stand on his own shitty record.
 

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Since Doug Ford has his own thread now, I'll respond to a post in the Rob Ford thread here.


Yes I do, and I do know what you mean. And if one of my brothers died from cancer the last thing I'd do is continually dredge up his memory to score cheap political points.

You do make a good point though - as long as the memory of Rob is fresh in people's minds, Doug won't be doing himself any favours by constantly reminding people of him. Donald Trump south of the border won't be helping his case either, since Doug Ford is basically a low rent Trump.

Mentioning Rob is one of the best political strategies for him. First Doug doesn't have the same "everyday guy" demeanor that Rob had so he needs to latch on to as much old Rob support as possible. Many residents were beneficiaries of Robs interesting style of returning calls, and showing up to people doors. I seriously have a 70+ old neighbour who had her driveway torn up by a contractor and after a year of getting the run around by the local councillor and contractor she called Ford. The guy showed up at her door. Half they neighbourhood wanted to throw eggs at him, the other half was in awe. Problem was solved within a couple weeks. You think these people that were helped or witness someone getting help cared about the personal life or his Politics? I'm not advocating for whether this approach was right or wrong, but trust me when I say for a Mayor to do this stuff to people getting the run around, he instantly becomes a hero. I hear this went on quite a bit elsewhere in his early days before the major meltdown. Doug doesn't have this same approach and persona and needs to squeeze the Rob lemon from all its worth. If he can get these emotions from these people that received calls or met the guy to get out to vote, Its a good strategy.

Both Trump and Ford have approximately a 20-30% "anti system" base that is almost unmovable in todays society and any support they can obtain above that will be drummed up by free exposure from being a "circus" show. When the media starts comparing the two, it will only help get him free exposure and for these type there is really no bad publicity anyway. You either hate everything about them already or you have some issues with the "system" and they will give you a volatile conduit to latch on to should something resonate or the media hate be too much, and people start to feel sorry for these types. I think Ford really wants to be associated with Trump for this very reason

Although I don't believe Doug will win over Tory, that base of his can never being taken lightly, if anything changes over the next year or he continues to get free over exposure by the left media and those voters that despise him vigorously I wouldn't be overly shocked if he closes the gap either.
 
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