Novel Coronavirus COVID-19 (nCoV-2019)

[Jonny5]

Those boys! https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...aught-partying-with-a-stripper-masks-off.html

Forgetting everything else about this, what idiots do this and take photos of it and then share them on social media, or send them out to any other quasi-public space they don't control, like a group text chat? One of them is even wearing a t-shirt with a giant company logo right on it, just in case no one knew where he worked!

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Forgetting everything else about this, what idiots do this and take photos of it and then share them on social media, or send them out to any other quasi-public space they don't control, like a group text chat? One of them is even wearing a t-shirt with a giant company logo right on it, just in case no one knew where he worked!

Somehow I suspect the companies wouldn't have cared in the act itself, only the actors being caught.

AoD

 

[Northern Light]

Ford and his government are entirely to blame for letting the situation deteriorate in the face of clear data... but this also exposes the limits of the health care system we say we love so much. Pennsylvania isn't doing well at the moment - it has a similar number of daily new cases in spite of its smaller population (2 million less than Ontario). But it has more than 3,500 ICU spaces, compared to about 2,000 in Ontario. They won't need to triage patients and send some to their deaths.

Interesting table from 2012 to shed light on this particular discussion:

From: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3551445/

 

[Lovestallthings]

Wasn't there an outbreak I read I think on "The Well" thread of covid?

As much as I would hate to see construction projects grind to a halt. I would rather see workers health and safety take precedent.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Interesting table from 2012 to shed light on this particular discussion:

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From: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3551445/

And also note it didn't stop the US from being the disaster that it was in terms of deaths, despite having the most ICU spaces per capita (nevermind uneven access and all that)

AoD

 

[afransen]

I think the definition of 'ICU bed' varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. It might mean something of a higher standard in one place vs another.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Meanwhile in Peel, hug-an-antimasker is hot:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1383116307172884480

AoD

 

[thaivic]

According to this Star article from today's News Roundup, there is:

Construction sites have been a major source of COVID-19 outbreaks. So why are they not part of Doug Ford’s stay-at-home order?

Despite being flagged as one of the major sources of COVID-19 outbreaks, the industry is so large and complex closing it is difficult.

www.thestar.com

(Note: But you'll have to pay to access that, sorry.)

...and good question.

It's a disservice to lump the construction industry with factories and food processing plants, of the 20,500 COVID-19 related workplace claims WSIB Ontario reports, only about 600 are from construction related fields.

 

[leftfieldto]

It's a disservice to lump the construction industry with factories and food processing plants, of the 20,500 COVID-19 related workplace claims WSIB Ontario reports, only about 600 are from construction related fields.

However, WSIB claims are far lower than the number of people infected on the job. By a rather large margin, from what I've seen. I know at least 20 people or more who have been infected, most of them in the workplace. Of those, ZERO WSIB claims.

 

[whatever]

WSIB Claims =/= Positive COVID cases

Edit: WSIB claims are a terrible correlate to actual workplace injuries, particularly in construction. Out of several dozen workplace injuries that I've personally sustained I've had exactly one claim made, and it was submitted largely against my will. And it's not just me. The WSIB is viewed with extreme suspicion and hostility by a large segment of the building trades. It's just a lousy metric to try to use to prove a point.

 

[marcus_a_j]

No camping in Ontario's provincial parks, Crown land during stay-at-home order

 

[Northern Light]

No camping in Ontario's provincial parks, Crown land during stay-at-home order

I really don't have time for this type of restriction............its outdoors, mostly done w/people in one's own household, its socially distant, its low-risk.

The failure to impose rational restrictions on assorted factories/warehouses etc; on LTC staff, on essential work places like meat-packing.........

Then compounded by low to no-value restrictions that just serve to irritate.

There's a level of foolishness here that's hard to contemplate.

 

[christiesplits]

The new restrictions still aren't wide enough, but the stopping of "non-essential construction" is good.

 

[Stec]

Sounds like all non essential construction is being ordered to stop.

 

[tiffer24]

Taking the kids to the park? Be aware of new police powers:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1383155057307357191

Ontario Sol-Gen Jones makes it clear: if police ask you walking down the street/stop you while you're driving about where you're going, where you live, etc... if you decline to give your info, they can ticket you, $750.