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Home Grown Terror...

Its amazing how many of you on this board think this whole arrest is a big joke, and just a anti-muslim plot by the government. You guys gotta get over whatever chip you have on your shoulders, and admit there is a problem, and that Canada is not immune to terrorism, and that we do have people here who hate us Canadians.
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You're kidding right?

It still has to go through court, but everyone is 95% sure they are guilty, unless the gov plotted the whole thing. People don't plot stuff like that for two years for nothing. So we already know they are guilty pretty much. This court thing will probably be more to decide how long they sit in jail then anything.
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Now I know you are 12 years old and live on the Philadelphia Cream Cheese Cloud.
 
Unfortunately, mike is not that young. I believe he is in his early twenties.
 
Get over it guys. Of course the suspects are going to have a trial. But you already know that 95% they are guilty. And don't go sitting there being politically correct saying "oh well they probably are not". You know they probably are. And you can bash me all you want, but everyone on the street is saying the same thing.

Its like saying that Paul Bernardo was not guilty untill the court proved it. No, people already knew he was probably guilty. And its the same with this. They already are pretty sure these guys are guilty, and the courts will probably prove it.

So I see nothing wrong with saying we know they are probably guilty. Because they probably are.

The courts will rule it, but everything is pointing to them being guilty, unless the government totally lied about everything and set them up.

You guys really gotta get off this politically correct crap. Its getting old.
 
You guys really gotta get off this politically correct crap. Its getting old.
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And you really need to put and end to your small minded, racist bullshit.
 
I am probably the least racist person on here. I happen to have friends from all backrounds including muslims(actually its my muslim friend who wants immigration from muslim countries banned, not even myself). I do not look at my friends based on race at all. I enjoy all the cultures in this city.

Actually I would say most of my friends are not even white. So don't go calling me racist, when I am far from it.

What I do not enjoy is cultures that are intolerant of the tolerance and welcoming we show them.
And I also am not afraid to admit if we have a problem that needs to be fixed.

And also you gotta stop thinking whites are racists weirdos. Go listen to some of the stuff non-white residents say about other cultures in Toronto. Its not so pretty. My muslim friend has told me the stuff her parents say about non muslims in Toronto, etc. And its not pretty.
So the whites are not all bad. Every culture in Toronto has their weird people that don't like other people but themselves.

But don't paint people as racists because we admit there is a problem.

I think the people that are most judgmental are you guys. You guys don't even know me in person, yet you paint me as this racist weirdo.
You hardly know me, so I would not even talk. You guys are far from perfect yourselves, and you guys can't take anyone who disagrees with you about anything. Thats why you have a problem with me.
 
Its amazing how many of you on this board think this whole arrest is a big joke, and just a anti-muslim plot by the government. You guys gotta get over whatever chip you have on your shoulders, and admit there is a problem, and that Canada is not immune to terrorism, and that we do have people here who hate us Canadians.
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Actually, it is you who is assuming that everyone is thinking this is a big joke. Don't confuse your own incapacity for comprehending complexity as being the fault of others.

As for the issue of having a "chip on the shoulder," your context is so off it is not worth commenting.

I am probably the least racist person on here. I happen to have friends from all backrounds including muslims(actually its my muslim friend who wants immigration from muslim countries banned, not even myself). I do not look at my friends based on race at all. I enjoy all the cultures in this city.
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Your opening statement is arrogant. Do you know what that word means? I am sure other people will post more choice descriptions about your silly statements.

You persist in bringing all issues back to you. I really don't care what you think about immigration or muslims, as you tend not to see the human beings amid the issues at hand. It's all about how good you are because you have friends of different cultural backgrounds. You claim you don't think about race, then confuse a religion with race, claim friends whom you describe via race, call for a specific banning of certain people on the basis of race (in this case religion), and support your assertion by noting the comments of a friend who happens to have similar views as you. Sorry mike, but that is not the basis for immigration policy. It is not even a sound basis for human interaction. It is, however, the basis for selective identification and discrimination.

The problem mike - and read this slowly and carefully - is not people who are muslim (or any religion, culture or race); the problem is that certain individuals want to carry out violent acts. Violence and religion/culture/race are all distinct from one and other. These individuals try to rationalize their acts by using religion, ideology or history as an excuse for acting. Do you understand this?

You hardly know me, so I would not even talk. You guys are far from perfect yourselves, and you guys can't take anyone who disagrees with you about anything. Thats why you have a problem with me.
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We know of you by your comments. No one here is claiming to be perfect (clearly you missed that while spending so much time discussing yourself). As for others not being able to "take it," that is a rather childish attitude. You live in a world with other people. Not everyone is going to agree with you - particularly when you openly espouse discrimination. You may not be a racist, mike; but sometimes you certainly sound like one.
 
Actually I would say most of my friends are not even white. So don't go calling me racist, when I am far from it.
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Coming from the homophobic homosexual himself.
 
You know Darkstar you really gotta get off that kick with the stupid gay stuff. 6 years ago I said that gay people have to stop sleeping around so much. So what, thats my opinion, get over it.

I can not believe you are still on that kick about my comment on gay people.

You should learn to get over things Darkstar. I have never met someone with such a bad attitude like you. And people I know who have met you in person have had the same thing. You think you are some higher authority then everyone else, if they disagree with you on something.
 
Ahem, let's keep the mudslinging private on both sides.

That said, this is NOT an endorsement of what you've said re: the criminal justice system, mike.

AoD
 
It was just on the news that the US is very concerned about this arrest, and that it shows Canada is a haven for muslim terrorists. The US has also said this could be because Canada is to liberal with our immigration.
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I'm beginning to get concerned about the impact on travel and tourism in Toronto given all of media that this is getting. These arrests are receiving a lot of coverage not just here, but on the other side of the border.
 
You know Darkstar you really gotta get off that kick with the stupid gay stuff. 6 years ago I said that gay people have to stop sleeping around so much.
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No, it was less than two years ago. I have the entire sad story on file in case you want it re-posted or perhaps brought to the people of Scarborough. You also said much more than "gay people have to stop sleeping around so much." Your selective memory and dating is telling.

My point was that you are probably the least qualified person on this forum to be talking about human rights issues as you've clearly shown zero regard to their value in the past and continue to do so.
 
I'm beginning to get concerned about the impact on travel and tourism in Toronto given all of media that this is getting. These arrests are receiving a lot of coverage not just here, but on the other side of the border.
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Actually, it's not that bad. I'm down in New Jersey right now, and the coverage has been pretty scant. On Sunday Fox News was calling for the building of a wall along the border, but the other stations just had small stories. Today there were short stories in the TV media due to the sensational details of the beheading of the Prime Minister. But really, most of the major networks are back to their continuing talking-head pannel of "experts" on the war in Iraq, the border to the south, gay marriages and how the rest of the media outlets are not covering all of those events adequately.
 
I would think this would be good news wrt tourism.

It shows that action is being taken and things are being done (I'm not declaring the arrested guilty) .
 
Indeed- CNN’s coverage, headed by Canada’s own J.D. “power hour†Roberts was pretty dull and uninformative. Terrorist groups are in every major western nation- it’s a particular problem for Canada because it borders a state that is the most targeted in the world by extremists. The fact that our security system foiled the attempt reinforces my opinion that Canada’s security is every bit up to par. Nothing from Canada has so far ever caused harm to the US. What irks overly-patriotic americans is that their security in this age of terrorism also relies heavily on Canada.
 
Thanks Darkstar for the blackmail and threat comment there. You got way to much time your hands dude if you are copying down everything I say and keeping it on file. Get over the obsession with me and what I think. You need to fix your attitude before telling me I need to fix mine.

And if you are copying what I am saying, that is really rude, and not what these forums are for. I would ban you if I was the moderator, for even saying you are copying down what people say.

Poor Darkstar. He just can't handle people having a different view then him.
 
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