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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)


Latest on this incident as it was discussed here at the time.



Given the volume of trains and the limited number of tracks, etc, I would have to imagine the suggested in the bold could be a challenge? @smallspy @crs1026
Yeah, not an option at this time.

Maybe if we get to the point of a full build-out of all of the corridors - 4 tracks or more - that could be something that happens.

I also wonder if she was walking in the narrow section that is shown in the picture of the article.

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She was not.

She was walking along the section past (away from) the stairs, and took a step towards to her left - and towards the track - to pass a slower passenger also walking in the same direction. She just happened to do so right as the VIA was passing.

Dan
 
^ thanks. Not that I guess it matters but I had forgotten until you mentioned it that it was a VIA "express train" and not a GO express train.
 
^ thanks. Not that I guess it matters but I had forgotten until you mentioned it that it was a VIA "express train" and not a GO express train.
There was an announcement at Bramalea the other day. "just a reminder that standing, walking or sitting on the yellow line is strictly prohibited and trains can pass at anytime.". As if that should even be necessary.
 
Is there not a need to place an order to replace the D4500's? More double deckers?
Metrolinx has been dragging their feet in ordering new buses for a while now. They don’t want to get any more double deckers. They want a low floor highway coach, but didn’t like the design from MCI. Essentially what they want doesn’t actually exist. Also the lead times for even just a conventional high floor coach can be very long. They are currently in discussions with manufactures, though.
 
Metrolinx has been dragging their feet in ordering new buses for a while now. They don’t want to get any more double deckers. They want a low floor highway coach, but didn’t like the design from MCI. Essentially what they want doesn’t actually exist. Also the lead times for even just a conventional high floor coach can be very long. They are currently in discussions with manufactures, though.
What's not to like about the D4500crt?

Most routes require double decker capacity though.
 
What's not to like about the D4500crt?

Most routes require double decker capacity though.
They didn’t like how the lowered vestibule on the D45 CRT LE was isolating passengers with disabilities.

The current SuperLos don’t seem to be going anywhere for a while. The first batch is also getting refurbished (and so are some of the older MCIs). I think for some routes if capacity is a problem, increasing service would be better.
 
Metrolinx has been dragging their feet in ordering new buses for a while now. They don’t want to get any more double deckers. They want a low floor highway coach, but didn’t like the design from MCI. Essentially what they want doesn’t actually exist. Also the lead times for even just a conventional high floor coach can be very long. They are currently in discussions with manufactures, though.

What's not to like about the D4500crt?

Most routes require double decker capacity though.

They didn’t like how the lowered vestibule on the D45 CRT LE was isolating passengers with disabilities.

The current SuperLos don’t seem to be going anywhere for a while. The first batch is also getting refurbished (and so are some of the older MCIs). I think for some routes if capacity is a problem, increasing service would be better.

First off, loving the insight here, thanks!

Second, I agree the D45 CRT LE is...weird. Forgive my ignorance, but is there a physical / mechanical reason highway coaches have high floors other than bag storage? I imagine there's a good reason, no way we've gone this far in accessible bus history without someone making a coach variant of an intercity bus layout / load method.
 
First off, loving the insight here, thanks!

Second, I agree the D45 CRT LE is...weird. Forgive my ignorance, but is there a physical / mechanical reason highway coaches have high floors other than bag storage? I imagine there's a good reason, no way we've gone this far in accessible bus history without someone making a coach variant of an intercity bus layout / load method.
Then order high floor single deck buses. D4505?

I guess they don't want to go the Orion V route and order suburban LFS versions...
 
First off, loving the insight here, thanks!

Second, I agree the D45 CRT LE is...weird. Forgive my ignorance, but is there a physical / mechanical reason highway coaches have high floors other than bag storage? I imagine there's a good reason, no way we've gone this far in accessible bus history without someone making a coach variant of an intercity bus layout / load method.
I think it’s because highway coaches typically make a lot less stops than a transit bus, so there’s less chance of needing to quickly load and unload mobility aids. The point about needing baggage space also makes sense.

European manufacturers have something closer to what Metrolinx wants. Examples include the Volvo 8900 and MAN Lion’s City LE. Even closer is the Plaxton Panther LE which is more of a coach and has a little bit of underfloor storage.
 
I think it’s because highway coaches typically make a lot less stops than a transit bus, so there’s less chance of needing to quickly load and unload mobility aids. The point about needing baggage space also makes sense.

European manufacturers have something closer to what Metrolinx wants. Examples include the Volvo 8900 and MAN Lion’s City LE. Even closer is the Plaxton Panther LE which is more of a coach and has a little bit of underfloor storage.
Stretch the LFS frame to 45ft 😂
 
Better seats would help. But low floor buses in general have a hard ride. The other issue is maintaining highway speed. They would need tweak the gearing.
Not to mention poorer doors that don't need to open/shut as frequently, they whistle like crazy on the highway. Guelph Transit runs a route using NOVA LFS briefly on Highway 6, it would not be good doing that on a longer run.

If baggage is the main issue, I would question how often they carry passengers needing it. Maybe during weekends before/after holidays when university students go home, but otherwise, it seems rarer these days beyond a backpack.
 
Not to mention poorer doors that don't need to open/shut as frequently, they whistle like crazy on the highway. Guelph Transit runs a route using NOVA LFS briefly on Highway 6, it would not be good doing that on a longer run.

If baggage is the main issue, I would question how often they carry passengers needing it. Maybe during weekends before/after holidays when university students go home, but otherwise, it seems rarer these days beyond a backpack.
Can you not get plug style door's?
 

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