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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)

Out of curiosity, does GO have any long term plans to switch over to high platform station? I've just been looking through some of the Blue22 stuff and noticed that there is a bit of conflict in that SNC-Lavalin et al want level, high platforms for ease of boarding. This seems logical, but haven't heard anything about GO about it. Shouldn't this be a condition of REX-ifying the Lakeshore lines?
 
GO KW Open house (Duke-of-Waterloo at SSP)

Why does it seem that I'm the one on here who always goes to these open houses? :p (Pics to come from my cell phone by the way) I got a cool GO bookmark, post-it notes and pens for going! And they fed me too. ;)

GO proposed to use a yard near Ira Needles as a "layover" for trains. If volumes permit, they plan on making this a station as well. If they cannot use this as their "layover", they will look further west in Wilmot Township at Petersburg and Baden.
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Proximity to the City.
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The downtown station. They propose to close Ahrens Street, as the GO trains are too long to permit it to remain open. GO had this as their preferred downtown "urban" station. It would have limited/no parking. GO will use the existing VIA train station building to sell tickets.
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Highway 7 & Greenhouse Road, Woolwich Township (Breslau) station concept. This will be the station that will be complete with park & ride facilities as well as a kiss & ride.
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This is good to hear!
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Hopefully someone will post details about Guelph's station locations. I am encouraged by GO's proposal to have two stations - a downtown urban station and a suburban, park-and-ride station. I believe this is the plan for Guelph as well, at least the VIA station there is a short walk to St. George's Square, where all but two bus routes serve.

Also, I spoke with one of GO's project managers at the Mount Dennis open house. He told me GO is planning four trains from Kitchener, 3 from Georgetown, as soon as Kitchener is ready, not even dependent (yet) on the Weston sub improvements. VIA and GO will likely work and signalize the GEXR (it is currently "dark territory") and improve the track conditions - welded rail and some solution to deal with the Guelph 5 MPH permanent slow order. GO anticipates many people taking GO from Kitchener will not be going all the way to Union. This might mean BT and MT will have to start serving people from their GO stations to send to places like the airport office districts and Meadowvale - a lot of people from K/W and Guelph work in places like this.
 
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So the station names would be Breslau and Kitchener? I assume the Georgetown line would become the Kitchener line?
 
Rail plans rattle home's owners

Residents fear diesels to Pearson will damage Humber River habitat, 1845 heritage house
Feb 06, 2009 04:30 AM
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Tess Kalinowski
transportation reporter

Richard Paine's house is a tiny grey square beside the wide red line that represents the train tracks on Metrolinx drawings of the proposed Union Station-to-Pearson rail link.

In real life, though, shrouded in a new snowfall, the old grey stucco home looks like a Christmas card. The view from the French windows in the living room is a pristine slope down to the Humber River at the back of the property.

It's paradise to the Paine family, who own the house on Humberview Cres., just off Weston Rd., that rare city home where deer and birds are regular backyard visitors.

The Paines have learned to live with the GO and freight trains that roar by 50 times a day. The animals, of course, scatter, said Richard Paine, 53.

He fears for their future and that of the river if the rail link plan proceeds and that single track is expanded to four, carrying what Metrolinx projects to be 220 trains a day, including 140 to the airport.

Mike Sullivan, chair of the Weston Community Coalition, says that's a conservative number. He believes there will be 346 trains daily in the future, including 15-minute GO service and more VIA service.

The Weston community is expected to be out in force at today's Metrolinx open house at the Weston Park Baptist Church, one in a series of six being held along the line. No formal protest is planned, but the coalition has been urging residents to turn out to see the detailed maps and storyboards. In the past, that's been enough to draw thousands.

"Metrolinx has done everything they can to put this in a format to make sure not a lot of people don't show up. It's spread over a whole day and it's on a Friday," said Sullivan.

Paine won't speculate on what it will be like when the expansion is finished in 2014. The Paines had hoped the rail link, stalled at the environment ministry for about two years, would just go away. But when the proposal to build the line and add all-day, two-way GO service to Brampton and Georgetown resurfaced last month, for a fast-tracked environmental assessment, their wishful thinking dried up.

"Obviously, selling is not an option," says Paine, who grew up in what's known as Holley House, named after its first occupant, Joseph Holley, one of Weston's first settlers and owner of a nearby grist- and sawmill.

Dating from about 1845, Holley House is believed to be the earliest home still standing in an area studded with heritage jewels. It's also one of the last remaining adobe brick houses in Ontario.

At one time, it served as the clubhouse for the Weston Golf and Country Club. Cooking was done in the downstairs fireplace, says Richard's wife, Deborah.

Cherri Hurst, of the Weston Heritage Conservation District, calls it a wonderful house and worries about its survival.

"An adobe brick house will never stand all the shaking, especially if we're talking the big heavy diesels. That's the thing about adobe brick – if you move it, it will fall apart," she said.

Hurst points out that the rail link's impact will be much wider. "It's not just single buildings, it's the whole connectivity," she says, noting that trains will limit access to the library and run only metres from St. John the Evangelist Catholic School.

Paine believes his house, built on a foundation of river stone, is solid.

He's not interested in seeing it turned into a heritage cause and he's leery about it being used as a pawn in the political battle around the rail link, something to which Sullivan says his association is sensitive.

"We're just making sure the planners know it's there and they've got to protect it," he said.

To Paine, Holley House's importance rests in the memories there. His father, Samuel, bought the house in 1949. He and his wife lived there until their deaths a few years ago. Paine has always lived close by, and his sons played there as children. The extended family gathered there for Saturday suppers.

"It was always central. The memories are here," he says. "Every season is beautiful. The greens are different as they come alive. You can't help but enjoy it.

"I just wonder how this is going to affect us, how lives are changing up and down this line."
 
Oh hang on - there's 3 stations shown in Kitchener. Yes, I guess the one in Breslau would be Breslau!
 
The Paines have learned to live with the GO and freight trains that roar by 50 times a day.

Its less like 35-40 ^^^^^


Anyways the way the Kitchener stations should be made is that there should be one massive station and then have smaller stations.
 
They damned well better stop in downtown Kitchener. A Breslau station isn't a bad idea, but it might be better to put it on the Kitchener side of the Grand, maybe around Lackner, if they can get enough parking.

Ira Needles is a good idea, because there are a lot of potential riders from Beechwood.

I'm more excited about the 12 VIA trains a day that they mention on those panels. How long are we going to have to wait for those?
 
They damned well better stop in downtown Kitchener. A Breslau station isn't a bad idea, but it might be better to put it on the Kitchener side of the Grand, maybe around Lackner, if they can get enough parking.
Perhaps the idea is that Breslau is near the north-south arterial. Plans seems to call for everything south of 7, between Kitchener and Guelph being urbanized, so a station here may get a lot of demand.

Ira Needles is a good idea, because there are a lot of potential riders from Beechwood.
More so because it's on a north-south artery, and easy to access from the Expressway (that new road is great, with all those roundabouts!). A station here seems like a no-brainer - it only extends the line a little, and doesn't add travel time to those going to Kitchener.

I'm more excited about the 12 VIA trains a day that they mention on those panels. How long are we going to have to wait for those?
I think that's 12 total, so 6 each-way. Sigh, I remember when there used to be 5 each-way. But combined with 4 GO trains, that's 10 trains a day. Might even temp me to take GO/VIA when I have to travel to Kitchener on business, given where I got is near their new proposed LRT. I'd also think with that type of service, you'd start to see some rail commuting between Guelph and Kitchener.
 
Perhaps the idea is that Breslau is near the north-south arterial. Plans seems to call for everything south of 7, between Kitchener and Guelph being urbanized, so a station here may get a lot of demand.

Fountain Street is the North-South arterial east of the Grand River. The proposed station is pretty far from it...
 
Fountain Street is the North-South arterial east of the Grand River. The proposed station is pretty far from it...
Is it? The picture isn't easy to read, but it appears that the G of "GO" partly covers the new(ish) Fountain Street by-pass. On the same board the "GO" for the Kitchener station looks quite far east of the existing station, but the other board shows it in the same place.

I'm not sure why they would close Ahrens - surely it would make more sense to grade-separate Weber and Duke, and close Waterloo, and have the platform closer to King Street, to connect to the LRT they want to build - or just move the entire station to King Street.
 

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