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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)

Eclipse trips have been announced:

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Announcements like this make me wish beach towns on Lake Erie such as Port Dover still had rail service. I know Port Stanley does but it's not connected to the greater network.

With the desire for more car free weekends escapes having train service would have been really convenient for Eclipse trains instead of them all going to Niagara. Niagara is going to be a gong show. A special boat cruise just south of Toronto into the middle of Lake Ontario would have been a better idea with less chaos.
 
Announcements like this make me wish beach towns on Lake Erie such as Port Dover still had rail service. I know Port Stanley does but it's not connected to the greater network.

With the desire for more car free weekends escapes having train service would have been really convenient for Eclipse trains instead of them all going to Niagara. Niagara is going to be a gong show. A special boat cruise just south of Toronto into the middle of Lake Ontario would have been a better idea with less chaos.
Port Stanley does.
 
Interesting. I don’t see specific mention of OnCorr in the budget (https://budget.ontario.ca/2024/chapter-1a.html#s-8)

Should I read anything into that?
My understanding is that it's always been considered separate from the 'On Corr' budget. It's considered 'off-corridor' just like work that happens between Aldershot-Niagara, the Bowmanville Extension, Bramalea-Kitchener, Richmond Hill Line, and the Milton Line. Maybe one day a Bolton Line, too. You can see 'off-corridor' references over the years in the Capital Projects Group reports to Metrolinx board meetings cc @crs1026
 
My understanding is that it's always been considered separate from the 'On Corr' budget. It's considered 'off-corridor' just like work that happens between Aldershot-Niagara, the Bowmanville Extension, Bramalea-Kitchener, Richmond Hill Line, and the Milton Line. Maybe one day a Bolton Line, too. You can see 'off-corridor' references over the years in the Capital Projects Group reports to Metrolinx board meetings cc @crs1026

Most definitely, OnCorr was a specific bundle of routes and functions, and some projects especially things that were added to ML's mandate after procurement began are not included, for now.

Yesterday's budget has only one dollar line for transit, and it's not discernible what is in that number, but I don't see any indication that there is any less commitment to OnCorr. The verbiage is politically driven and clearly there were other things that Ford wanted to highlight more.... especially highway projects.

- Paul
 
I love when they say they added 2 trains to Milton but it's really just 1 extra trip in the morning and an extra trip in the evening. Even if they doubled that, it's not much and not back to pre-Covid service.
I believe they did that a few months back, quoting weekly additional trains along the Kitchener corridor to make it sound enormous.
 

According to [sister] Brittney and [mother] Ruth, autopsy results showed zero drugs or alcohol in Vivienne’s body; Ruth emphasized her daughter’s death wasn’t a suicide, as she’s heard some have speculated. “People saying horrible things online doesn’t help us.”

The pair relayed to the Star details of a security video the police and coroner’s office described to them. They said they were told Vivienne and her boyfriend were walking on eastbound tracks when they appeared to move onto the westbound tracks to avoid an approaching train, but another train was fast approaching on the westbound tracks. The family says the two teens appeared to never see it before they were struck.

According to the UP Express website, the airport trains can travel up to 140 kilometres an hour.

“I think because of the vibration, lights and sound of that (eastbound train), they didn’t even notice the other one from behind,” Ruth said, describing her conversation with police and the coroner through tears.

Confirmed misadventure. Train time is anytime folks. A heartbreaking story nonetheless. As a father, it's stuff like this that keeps me up at night. Kids screw up, and we sometimes just have to pray we've given them all the tools and advice to not screw up in a life-altering way.

Looping back to our conversation about noise walls, this article seems to confirm my suspicion that noise walls against people's backyards would not have done the trick. The access was gained from open space areas adjacent to the creek and/or roads. Perhaps that will lead to better fencing / barriers in these spots.

But ultimately, there's going to always be gaps, and I think the most practical remedy to this kind of incident is continued investment in safety talks at schools (Operation Lifesaver). This is one of the WORST corridors in the GTA to be playing on, and they should not have set foot on the tracks.
 
I feel for the parents, but these kids are old enough to have been informed several times of the danger of walking on tracks. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
It's tempting to write it off as "kids being stupid". But we should not be lead into thinking we couldn't have done more.

I will admit to walking on tracks as a teenager, on low-speed CN tracks serving local auto plants. One time, I was even playing with a friend on a 50 foot high wooden trestle, hauling weird shit like bikes and barrels to throw it off the side. And we almost got caught up there, after about a half-hour, a train came sailing around a curve into our view. If we had forgot to look as frequently as we did, or if we mis-stepped between the ties bolting off of the trestle, we could have been killed or seriously injured (from the train and/or the fall)

We did it because we believed, from previous observation, that the trains ran slow. We were confident that if a train came, we'd had enough time to get out of the way, we even discussed it at length before doing it. We were invincible and smart teenagers. But we could have been wrong about the train speed, and we certainly didn't factor in the risk of snags or falls.

Side note: the sign waning "Danger: High Speed Trains" with a picture of an ICE 1 train did little to convince us, as that's not what we really saw. That's a lesson in effective signage.

I haven't been to a GO / Metrolinx school presentation, and it's been a long time since I went to an Op Lifesaver presentation. But I hope it factors this in, especially for the older kids. You think you know, but teenagers have a lot of brain development still going on, and risk-taking and analysis is still not fully developed I know I'm preaching to a lot of other parents and former teenagers here, but it's an important point to highlight: accidents happen, risk factors pile up. Cases like this serve as a good example of 'you think you know, but they didn't'. There's also the anti-authority element. But if we can do better to reinforce the real danger, there's a greater chance of kids *telling each other* to avoid the danger. Another 15 year old saying "Bruh, that's crazy, stick to the side" is likely going to work better than a guy in a shiny vest saying anything in a school gym.

Anyway, stepping off the soapbox here, I am curious how Metrolinx responds, and if that means better fencing along rights of way.
 
It's tempting to write it off as "kids being stupid". But we should not be lead into thinking we couldn't have done more.

I'm of two minds on this.

I'll start with:

1) Its important to value life and not be cavalier and show a sense of empathy.

2)In urban areas where risks of intrusion are numerically more likely and train movements more frequent, there is certainly an argument for fencing corridor access; that said, chain link fences in Toronto blocking popular access routes across tracks are cut with regularity; just ask CP about trying to keep up with that activity in Leaside, where people, not just kids, want to cut across the ROW from the homes to get to Crothers Woods and the hiking/biking trails, and/or the Loblaws, its a massive shortcut.

If you're going to do it, you need to prevent that with non-scalable, 10ft fences that are very hard to cut (metal/composite faux wrought-iron style would be the recommendation) but that's quite expensive and there's a lot of track.

Its inconceivable to control for access in more rural areas and indeed, where the railways balk at intrusion in Toronto, the Bruce Trail runs directly across and along side rail corridors at times. (briefly)

3) Education is almost always a good idea, but also almost always a challenge. Try telling parents we're going to teach your kid the safest way to do drugs, with the strong recommendation that they don't do them at all. Try telling many parents about detailed sex-ed at a relatively young age, get the same issue. Yet, the limited-scope, 'never do the bad thing' message; or wait til you're an adult is a non-starter.

Now I offered than intro to suggest, do you want to teach kids how to walk along a rail corridor safely? How would the railways feel about "You shouldn't trespass, but if you're going to do it, this is how"?

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I offer the above in service of, when I've been in a rural area, usually on a hiking trail, and had to follow rail for a bit, I learned a long time ago to not only check both ways properly and stick to the side if feasible, but before stepping between the rails, put your ear to the rail. The vibration of an oncoming train can be heard literally 15x further than listing for the sound of a train traveling through air. It can give you a very clear indication of whether its safe to traverse a trestle that will take 2 minutes to get across.

Its also a great idea to be a train geek and get the scheduled runs; or gain access to real-time tracking of runs on your phone, though such is no guarantee of a safe crossing, as there is always the risk of unscheduled/untracked runs, work equipment etc.

But can I imagine anyone explaining that to a class of teens/pre-teens w/the railways blessing?

4) Finally, I would note the specific issue described here seems to be that the teens may have seen one train coming and in an effort to avoid it they stepped from the track they knew was active, to one w/an oncoming UPX vehicle they did not see coming. This is a common feature in train/trespasser collisions that are not suicides. Here again is there a sensible instruction to give? In a two-track scenario, the obvious thing to say is always step to the side of the active track, not to the opposing track (assuming that's feasible). But if you're walking down the middle of 3 tracks or 4 tracks etc. Other than.....don't do that, I can't think of clear advice on the lowest risk option if you see a train coming, do you step to the left or the right?
In theory, properly positioned, you probably have room to stand between 2 moving trains, but not much (approximately 2.5ft, assuming neither train has a wide load, and there is no shaking/shifting at all) , and I would not recommend anyone try.

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In the end one must have empathy for both the kids and the parents here. But I'm not sure there are any 'easy' solutions.
 
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