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May 25, 2022 - a somewhat unusual and an unexpected sight. Two Go Transit legacy control cabs, Nos. 256 and 257, in service (trailing lights are on) sitting side-by-side in the North Bathurst Yard this afternoon, waiting for their Wednesday evening rush hour departures.

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I still find the missing reflector stripes on 256 to be quite interesting, considering that GO removed them for seemingly no reason. 255 also has missing stripes except it's on the sides where the marker and ditch lights are instead.
 
I still find the missing reflector stripes on 256 to be quite interesting, considering that GO removed them for seemingly no reason. 255 also has missing stripes except it's on the sides where the marker and ditch lights are instead.
Maybe they replaced the door with one from a non cab car?
 
I still find the missing reflector stripes on 256 to be quite interesting, considering that GO removed them for seemingly no reason. 255 also has missing stripes except it's on the sides where the marker and ditch lights are instead.
GO didn't remove the stripes, at least not on purpose. What is more likely is that a replacement door was fitted to 256 that didn't have the reflective striping applied.

255 was in a grade crossing accident some time ago, and likely didn't receive the stripes when the new end cap was applied for the same reason.

Maybe they replaced the door with one from a non cab car?
The non-cab end doors are a completely different design, and are not interchangeable with the cab end doors.

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With Alstom in charge of the rolling stock I don't know about that.
Alstom is not leading the procurement: Metrolinx is. Alstom has no problem maintaining locomotives from EMD and MPI on GO's behalf. In fact, Alstom also maintains fleets of Siemens trains in Bulgaria and the UK.
 
i really cant see them buying anything other than more mp40s. that would require parts services and different maintenance contracts.

would be so easy for them to add mp40s than to get a different brand.
 
i really cant see them buying anything other than more mp40s. that would require parts services and different maintenance contracts.

would be so easy for them to add mp40s than to get a different brand.
So more MP54s? That's probable but I feel like it'll be another model.
 
So more MP54s? That's probable but I feel like it'll be another model.
I agree. It is an open tender, and up to 33 locos will be ordered which isn’t insignificant. If Siemens won with the Charger, it is a popular model and parts will be easy to source for a long time. I am guessing that MX will just go with the lowest bidder here.

As an aside, Montreal’s Exo bought 10 Chargers earlier this year.
 
What I am more surprised on is that fact that the F59s will still live on.

They were supposed to all be retired in 2011, but have continued service on GO for more than a decade after.

I was sure that with this new order, they would be withdrawn.
 
What I am more surprised on is that fact that the F59s will still live on.

They were supposed to all be retired in 2011, but have continued service on GO for more than a decade after.

I was sure that with this new order, they would be withdrawn.
Assuming "ALL" bridges can support MP40's Plus. Until all bridges can support Mp40's up, the F49 will be around for sometime.

They can be use to work the yards considering you can find 1959's loco's today doing that on a number of RR systems as will local on line service.

Still can be use on 6-8 car trains.
 
i really cant see them buying anything other than more mp40s. that would require parts services and different maintenance contracts.

would be so easy for them to add mp40s than to get a different brand.
it would be the mp54s in this case but yea it will be mpi almost certainly. no reason to jump to a different supplier just for a few years of diesel ops.
 
Assuming "ALL" bridges can support MP40's Plus. Until all bridges can support Mp40's up, the F49 will be around for sometime.

They can be use to work the yards considering you can find 1959's loco's today doing that on a number of RR systems as will local on line service.

Still can be use on 6-8 car trains.
By "all" bridges, you mean the one bridge in St. Mary's which supposedly can't support an MP40? Apart from London-Kitchener, MP40s already run everywhere in the network.

As far as I can tell, the diesel commuter rail locomotives currently on the market at the moment are:

Siemens Charger - up to 4400 hp
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Image by GranolaBranBorg via Wikimedia

MPI MPXpress - up to 5400 hp

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Image by Milan Suvajac via Wikimedia

EMD F125 - up to 4560 hp

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Image by Andrew via Wikimedia

Assuming that the F125 is out of the running given that nobody else other than Metrolink seems to be buying them, the MPI MPXpress does seem to have the advantege given that GO already has a tons of them, and that they already offer a 5400hp model, versus Siemens' 4400hp. I'm sure Siemens could design a more powerful Charger, but MPI has already done that R&D, so at this point they have a cost advantage.

I hope that GO will continue getting the most powerful locomotives on the market, especially given that a core premise of GO Expansion is that faster service can be provided with existing BiLevel coaches by improving the power-to-weight ratio of the consists.
 

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