AlvinofDiaspar
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Surely, he would then know the commandment - "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain" - it's doubly appropriate in this particular instance.
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Surely, he would then know the commandment - "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain" - it's doubly appropriate in this particular instance.
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Absolutely. But it speaks to the hypocrisy of far too many so-called Christians who choose to follow the Old Testament teachings rather than the ones that their Messiah gave them.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Except most don't even follow the Old Testaments. What they are doing is Biblical virtue signalling.
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Jasmine18
Senior Member
Jasmine18
Senior Member
i would caution activists trying to push a defund, disband or disarm agenda against the police.
That wont get broad support to get it done, focus should be on reform.
That wont get broad support to get it done, focus should be on reform.
SunriseChampion
Senior Member
Yeah, maybe in fascist Hungary.
SunriseChampion
Senior Member
The Chinese FM taking the piss: calling on the US to honour human rights during these protests.
Ahem.....the anniversary of the Tianmen massacre is this week. Let me know when tanks start rolling down the streets of Washington.
Of course that scum are going to try to take this opportunity to deflect attention off their own bloated rotting corpse.
I'd love to see police in Hong Kong kneeling with protesters or marching with them as has been the case in many cities across the US.
And maybe after the Yanks set up concentration camps for religious minorities (wait, this sounds eerily familiar).
The CCP dogs never fail to amaze. He didn't even crack a smile during his bullshit speech. Good acting.
The Chinese DO NOT get to lecture anyone about human rights. Imagine listening to Hitler give a speech about religious tolerance. Yeah, exactly.
Ahem.....the anniversary of the Tianmen massacre is this week. Let me know when tanks start rolling down the streets of Washington.
Of course that scum are going to try to take this opportunity to deflect attention off their own bloated rotting corpse.
I'd love to see police in Hong Kong kneeling with protesters or marching with them as has been the case in many cities across the US.
And maybe after the Yanks set up concentration camps for religious minorities (wait, this sounds eerily familiar).
The CCP dogs never fail to amaze. He didn't even crack a smile during his bullshit speech. Good acting.
The Chinese DO NOT get to lecture anyone about human rights. Imagine listening to Hitler give a speech about religious tolerance. Yeah, exactly.
SunriseChampion
Senior Member
Preach!
This can't be said enough! "Christians" who ignore the teachings of Christ are misguided fools.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
From link.
A letter to Defense Secretary Mark Esper
A letter to Defense Secretary Mark Esper
June 2, 2020
Hon. Mark T. Esper
Secretary of Defense
The Pentagon
Washington, D.C., 20301
Dear Secretary Esper,
I resign from the Defense Science Board, effective immediately.
When I joined the Board in early 2014, after leaving government service as Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, I again swore an oath of office, one familiar to you, that includes the commitment to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States . . . and to bear true faith and allegiance to the same.”
You recited that same oath on July 23, 2019, when you were sworn in as Secretary of Defense. On Monday, June 1, 2020, I believe that you violated that oath. Law-abiding protesters just outside the White House were dispersed using tear gas and rubber bullets — not for the sake of safety, but to clear a path for a presidential photo op. You then accompanied President Trump in walking from the White House to St. John’s Episcopal Church for that photo.
President Trump’s actions Monday night violated his oath to “take care that the laws be faithfully executed,” as well as the First Amendment “right of the people peaceably to assemble.” You may not have been able to stop President Trump from directing this appalling use of force, but you could have chosen to oppose it. Instead, you visibly supported it.
Anyone who takes the oath of office must decide where he or she will draw the line: What are the things that they will refuse to do? Secretary Esper, you have served honorably for many years, in active and reserve military duty, as Secretary of the Army, and now as Secretary of Defense. You must have thought long and hard about where that line should be drawn. I must now ask: If last night’s blatant violations do not cross the line for you, what will?
Unfortunately, it appears there may be few if any lines that President Trump is not willing to cross, so you will probably be faced with this terrible question again in the coming days. You may be asked to take, or to direct the men and women serving in the U.S. military to take, actions that further undermine the Constitution and harm Americans.
As a concerned citizen, and as a former senior defense official who cares deeply about the military, I urge you to consider closely both your future actions and your future words. For example, some could interpret literally your suggestion to the nation’s governors Monday that they need to “dominate the battlespace.” I cannot believe that you see the United States as a “battlespace,” or that you believe our citizens must be “dominated.” Such language sends an extremely dangerous signal.
You have made life-and-death decisions in combat overseas; soon you may be asked to make life-and-death decisions about using the military on American streets and against Americans. Where will you draw the line, and when will you draw it?
I hope this letter of resignation will encourage you to again contemplate the obligations you undertook in your oath of office, as well as your obligations to the men and women in our military and other Americans whose lives may be at stake. In the event that at least some other senior officials may be inclined to ask these questions after reading this letter, I am making it public.
I wish you the best, in very difficult times. The sanctity of the U.S. Constitution, and the lives of Americans, may depend on your choices.
Sincerely,
James N. Miller
James N. Miller served as under secretary of defense for policy from 2012 to 2014. He provided The Post with a copy of his resignation letter, which he submitted to Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper on Tuesday evening.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Come on Gabe, don't be part of the misinformation. That Hitler pic was clearly doctored, https://twitter.com/i/events/1267915594856148992
We mustn't look for media or posts that confirm what we already believe, but instead scratch the surface and test for confirmation bias.
Northern Light
Superstar
In one modest, and belated piece of good news:
The charges against the officer who killed George Floyd have been upgraded to 2nd degree murder.
and
The other three who stood around watching, and doing nothing to prevent this tragedy have now been charged with Aiding and Abetting 2nd degree murder.
minnesota.cbslocal.com
The charges against the officer who killed George Floyd have been upgraded to 2nd degree murder.
and
The other three who stood around watching, and doing nothing to prevent this tragedy have now been charged with Aiding and Abetting 2nd degree murder.
George Floyd Death: All Four Ex-Officers Involved Now Charged, In Custody
All four fired Minneapolis police officers involved in George Floyd's death now face charges.
minnesota.cbslocal.com
Two of the three weren’t just watching. Video shows them also kneeling on Floyd.
Jasmine18
Senior Member
From what I heard the case of trevon Martin shows you have to charge people on something where conviction is achievable then simply appeasing the general public. Or else you have people walking away from getting justice.
Charging the cops as the same as the main cop would cause a huge legal mess.
Aiding and abetting is an appropriate charge for the other cops and will lead to conviction.
It sends a clear message to other cops that you can't simply standby when something horrible is happening.
Last thing the DA wants is a rodney king situation.
jje1000
Senior Member
In one modest, and belated piece of good news:
The charges against the officer who killed George Floyd have been upgraded to 2nd degree murder.
and
The other three who stood around watching, and doing nothing to prevent this tragedy have now been charged with Aiding and Abetting 2nd degree murder.
George Floyd Death: All Four Ex-Officers Involved Now Charged, In Custody
All four fired Minneapolis police officers involved in George Floyd's death now face charges.
Yup, not sure how I feel about that- 2nd degree means intent to murder, which is going to be hard to prove and could inevitably end up with Chauvin walking like Zimmerman.
Agree with the charges for the other cops.
A second wave of riots are definitely going to occur if Chavin is acquitted. But then again... isn't Keith Ellison (Minnesota DA) sort of linked to Antifa?
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Northern Light
Superstar
In respect of this particular version of 2nd degree murder; the charge does not imply an intent to kill.
Here's the actual charge: Murder - 2nd Degree - Without Intent - While Committing a Felony
As to Ellison, I only did a quick online survey but didn't see any credible links supporting that.
There are some that appear to show such a link for his son.