2018 Ontario Provincial Election Discussion

[ShonTron]

I can't wait for the Globe and Mail's endorsement.

 

[King of Kensington]

I can't wait for the Globe and Mail's endorsement.

Conservative minority, dump Ford, and hopefully the Liberals rebuild so they, rather than the NDP, are the main alternative to the Tories.

 

[syn]

If you’ve been holding onto a video of Doug humping an underage corgi, now’s the time to post it...

http://www.ekospolitics.com/index.p...s-doug-ford-on-track-for-majority-government/

I feel like all of the stuff released on Ford and the Conservatives was poorly timed. Does anyone care about Granic Alle's comments at this point? It's ancient history. Ford selling memberships? Releasing that one a week later would've probably been the wise move.

 

[Videodrome]

http://nationalpost.com/news/ontari...-mayor-system-for-cities-one-person-in-charge

I don't support the "strong mayor" system.

 

[Jasmine18]

It is going to be so hilarious seeing the liberals get thrown into third place and be utterly humiliated in a few days

 

[Videodrome]

Being that I am an independent voter who doesn't donate to or join parties, the Liberals getting crushed doesn't bother me at all. What does is Doug getting a majority government.

 

[Hopkins123]

Everyone's a nonpartisan until reality sets in that the right-wing party, and biased only against the right-wing party, has a good chance of winning.

 

[BurlOak]

Everyone's a nonpartisan until reality sets in that the right-wing party, and biased only against the right-wing party, has a good chance of winning.

I thought the PC's were ahead. According to the CBC Vote Compass - they are the closest we have to a centrist party in Ontario.

 

[animatronic]

I thought the PC's were ahead. According to the CBC Vote Compass - they are the closest we have to a centrist party in Ontario.

The Tenycke/Ford party is most assuredly not going to be centrist.

 

[narduch]

CP24 is reporting that Wynne is going to concede defeat.

I'm a little bit shocked.

 

[Hopkins123]

CP24 is reporting that Wynne is going to concede defeat.

I'm a little bit shocked.

"Hallelujah!"

https://globalnews.ca/news/4249029/...in-ontario-election/?utm_source=notification/

 

[SunriseChampion]

CP24 is reporting that Wynne is going to concede defeat.

I'm a little bit shocked.

I'll pay extra taxes if Wynne, Ford, and Horwath all concede defeat and piss off.

Fuck it, double my taxes under those conditions.

 

[MisterF]

So Wynne is basically saying that they're not going to win, but vote for them anyway to reduce the chance of a majority for either of the other parties. I have a feeling this is going to backfire on her - she's essentially removing the Liberals from consideration for the average voter, making it a two way race between the NDP and Conservatives.

 

[BurlOak]

Everyone knows that she and the Liberals are toast. As a Leader of a major and historic party I doubt it's possible to say - "vote for the other guy". But I wonder if that is what she is really hoping for.

Just based on numbers, it is very unlikely that we will have a minority government if the Liberals only get 5 or 6 seats (although it did happen in BC). So the signal may actually be for all left wing voters to support the NDP. Even though she doesn't say it specifically, her soldiers in the media will likely report it this way as the only way to stop a Ford majority. The Liberals would be quite happy with an NDP minority because their policies would essentially continue, the party would do worse than we are doing now, and the Liberals could campaign in 4 years that things got worse since the Liberals left.

 

[MisterF]

Everyone knows that she and the Liberals are toast. As a Leader of a major and historic party I doubt it's possible to say - "vote for the other guy". But I wonder if that is what she is really hoping for.

Just based on numbers, it is very unlikely that we will have a minority government if the Liberals only get 5 or 6 seats (although it did happen in BC). So the signal may actually be for all left wing voters to support the NDP. Even though she doesn't say it specifically, her soldiers in the media will likely report it this way as the only way to stop a Ford majority. The Liberals would be quite happy with an NDP minority because their policies would essentially continue, the party would do worse than we are doing now, and the Liberals could campaign in 4 years that things got worse since the Liberals left.

Her soldiers in the media? lol... the same soldiers who are endorsing the PC party for this election? Wasn't the only Toronto newspaper that endorsed the Liberals in the last federal election the Star? The "liberal media" is a myth.

Good point about Wynne's motives though. She might be trying to subtly get remaining Liberal voters to switch to the NDP. Still, I'm not convinced that an NDP government would be worse than what we have now. The Rae government is ancient history and the NDP have run perfectly fine governments in other provinces since then. And since economists are saying that the NDP would have the smallest deficits of all the major parties, they're the least fiscally reckless choice.