Bordercollie
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That's a lot of stops for an interurban line.
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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)
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T3G
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Toronto is a big city.
DirectionNorth
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This seems like an odd concept pattern. If UP Express demand is so high that we need separate services, have an all-stop service and an express service that stops only at Bloor, Mt. Dennis, and Woodbine.
Bordercollie
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For a train the size of a GO train to get up to speed those stations are too close.
LRT would be okay
Metroscapes
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That's a lot of stops for an express line.
anb
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Seems like they’re finally running buses to Union again but its not what you expect.
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None of that makes any sense! Route 21S between Kipling and Union? No bus service to Port Credit?
reaperexpress
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Nope!
I really hope this is some kind of communication error, because the replacement bus service they have communicated makes no sense whatsoever. They're still going to dump all of the Milton line customers at Lakeshore West stations even though there is no Lakeshore West train, and apparently they are completely abandoning Port Credit, Long Branch and Mimico. Ignoring 416 stations is nothing new to GO but dropping Port Credit is a new low.
anb
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It would make a lot more sense if it was 21C as in Erindale-Sq One-Cooksville then heading to Kipling and Union after, so Port Credit riders at least have Cooksville or Clarkson to head to. Or even if its the interlined with the 29 that already heads to Kipling. This 21S routing however makes 0 sense and even more questionable considering the subway will do a much better job in time given if the Gardiner has traffic.
JasonParis
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I don't understand why an express version wouldn't just hit the three mid-line interchanges (i.e., Woodbine - Line 6, Mount Dennis - Line 5, and Bloor - Line 2). But I guess the service pattern suggested is to make both versions only hit no more than 4 stations. So here I am answering my own question. Haha.
nfitz
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If one was to have two different trains, I'd be tempted to do like Heathrow, and have one train as non-stop, and the other stop everywhere.
Might be interesting to extend one of them to East Harbour station as well.
Might be interesting to extend one of them to East Harbour station as well.
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WB62
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I think my idea might be closer to reality than you guys are thinking, but I guess we all won’t know until mid next year.
reaperexpress
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The only station opening next year is Mount Dennis. By the time the rest of the stations are open the line should be fully quad tracked.
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crs1026
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I can't imagine ML skipping the Peel/Brampton market. The Woodbine station and the St Clair stations will not be with us for years. The Liberty station platforms are now pretty much cast in stone and that implies a service plan that's already fairly well firmed up.
UP business does not seem to be harmed by having to make stops - it's still a very quick trip to the airport. I can't imagine that an express service on top of the current stopping business would bring in more riders.
I can believe that UP might eventually want to move to a much more frequent headway, and I suppose that might demand trains that skip every second stop on an alternating basis. They would have to increase their fleet to make that work. When the line is electrified, that may be an option.
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