kEiThZ
Superstar
Nobody knows how sincere they were or how they would react to unforeseen (but predictable) increases in cost.
In any event, the election is done. We get to see how serious the Liberals are.
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Nobody knows how sincere they were or how they would react to unforeseen (but predictable) increases in cost.
In any event, the election is done. We get to see how serious the Liberals are.
roger1818
Senior Member
You are right and we don’t know how sincere the CPC was, but we do know how sincere the LPC is, given how much progress they have made on the file over the past 5 years. I guess better the devil you know than the devil you don’t. I figure now we will most likely have a fully costed plan in 4 years for the LPC to go to the polls for a mandate on.
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Allandale25
Senior Member
I can't recall. Has VIA or the government said how many new trips HFR will provide between Toronto and Ottawa/Montreal? I don't see it on VIA's website.
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High Frequency Rail | VIA Rail
We are expanding our current service offering with the introduction of the High Frequency Rail (HFR) in the Quebec City-Windsor Corridor. Discover the project's details.
lrt's friend
Active Member
The number I have heard repeatedly is that there will be 15 round trips per day, more or less hourly departures.
crs1026
Superstar
I can't recall. Has VIA or the government said how many new trips HFR will provide between Toronto and Ottawa/Montreal? I don't see it on VIA's website.
High Frequency Rail | VIA Rail
We are expanding our current service offering with the introduction of the High Frequency Rail (HFR) in the Quebec City-Windsor Corridor. Discover the project's details.
I think we have mostly assumed hourly, because the portion east of Toronto is pretty close to hourly already and VIA is promising better under HFR.
However - Try pp35+ of VIA's 2018-2022 Corporate Plan - which certainly leaves that impression.
Earlier VIA fact sheets referred to "three times as many departures" which certainly approaches hourly service throughout the HFR catchment.
- Paul
EnviroTO
Senior Member
I hadn't realized there was an hourly commitment. Finally! This can't happen soon enough. The day I can decide on a whim I'm going to Montreal or Ottawa and can head straight to the station without looking at a clock, and not be price gouged for not planning a month in advance is the day we can say we have a real rail service.
rbt
Senior Member
Agreed, for most of the time. There should be some periods (like friday/monday of long weekends) where many trains are full otherwise they've bought far too much rolling stock.
Bordercollie
Senior Member
When the venture sets are in service, will they be able to run at 100mph on class 5 track like the LRC's?
Urban Sky
Senior Member
Would you procure a fleet which will only reach slower speeds in revenue operations compared to the fleet they replace?
cplchanb
Senior Member
We didn't they already backwards with the lrc vs the turbo train? 95mph max speed vs 170mph
Dedicated high speed train sets dumbed down to highish speed loco and coaches
roger1818
Senior Member
It’s not a question of if the new fleet is capable of traveling at 100mph (they are capable of travelling at 125 mph), but a question of if Transport Canada will grant the same exemption to the 95 mph speed limit of class 5 track for passenger trains that the LRC trains have.
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Urban Sky
Senior Member
The ability to operate at a maximum speed of 100 mph over Class 5 tracks was the most essential requirement of the RFQ process:It’s not a question of if the new fleet is capable of traveling at 100mph (they are capable of travelling at 125 mph), but a question of if Transport Canada will grant the same exemption to the 95 mph speed limit of class 5 track for passenger trains that the LRC trains have.
https://www.viarail.ca/sites/all/files/media/pdfs/About_VIA/new-fleet/VIA Rail_Corridor_Fleet_Renewal_Project_Request_for_Qualifications.pdf (p.7)
smallspy
Senior Member
While the assumption is "yes, they will be able to", it is also dependent on the results of track force testing once they get here.
That testing will determine exactly under which category - regular passenger line speed, or the enhanced LRC speed - they will be able to operate at.
(Don't forget too, that there are quite a few miles of track where all passenger cars are allowed a track speed of 100mph, not just the LRCs.)
Dan
Bordercollie
Senior Member
I thought the BUDD cars are limited to 95mph?
I guess Ren cars are capable of 100mph but we don't have any in the corridor.
Urban Sky
Senior Member
The maximum allowable speed is always the lowest of any speed limit which may apply to the movement of a particular consist and/or over a particular segment of track...
Also, the Renaissance cars have been back on the QMO since the last schedule increase on August 30:
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