EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
I don't get them and I think they are very unhelpful if you don't know the system at all. Ther are may times when I have helped a tourist to know which way to go on trains by using the map.
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TTC: Other Items (catch all)
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steveintoronto
Superstar
Just up Steve Munro:
501 Queen: Low Floor Cars But Wider Headways
501 Queen: Low Floor Cars But Wider Headways
thettctransitfanatic
Senior Member
Read the article and find none of this unsurprising. There always seems to be long gaps at random times even now, and the new schedule will probably make matters MUCH worse. Although the 501L schedules aren't changing, thank god for that.
Richard White
Senior Member
Hey everyone,
I was just at St George southbound and saw a flashing green signal (see below). I've heard of flashing red for grade timing but never flashing green.
Anyone know what this indicates?
I was just at St George southbound and saw a flashing green signal (see below). I've heard of flashing red for grade timing but never flashing green.
Anyone know what this indicates?
JSF-1
Active Member
I would say its a sort of indicator for drivers that the track ahead is clear. Since that section of the line now runs ATC from St.George to the next station there are no signals (except at crossings). Those flashing Greens act as a sort of "Ok to Proceed" signal telling the driver he/she can close the doors and engage the ATO system. I would guess that in the event of a delay (intentional or not) the signal will display red to telling the driver to hold until given a green signal.
Ozman
Active Member
I agree. The alternative is the solid red signal which means ATC system has determined the way ahead isn't clear yet so wait at the platform with doors open as the train won't be proceeding yet anyway.
smallspy
Senior Member
This is correct. Even though the ATC system will automatically calculate the safe distances and speeds with regards to the track configuration and the position of trains ahead, there are still wayside signals at all interlockings as an added measure of safety. All they are used for now is to notify the operator of route and clearance through the interlocking.
Also note that the signals used at interlockings are far simplified compared to the old system. There now is a single-headed three-aspect signal at that location, versus the two-headed, three-plus-aspect signal that used to exist.
Dan
robmausser
Senior Member
Richard White
Senior Member
London has these for every line and it works fine. Their system is so large it is impossible to display it all on one map.
It will be fine.
nfitz
Superstar
In theory - I haven't spotted those new maps in great numbers yet ... wouldn't surprise me at all, if they start taking out the 4 existing maps in each car above the door, before they've put in 4 system maps!
reaperexpress
Senior Member
Agreed, I was just in a crowded Line 2 train for the first time since they installed the new maps and there was only one system map on the wall, way down at the other end of the car. If I needed to see it there's no way I could have done so. Every pair of doorways needs a system map, just like every pair of doorway used to have a full subway map.
On the map itself, I think they should really show a little stub of Line 1 to show how it intersects with Line 2. This is important because we don't want to portray St. George and Spadina as equally-convenient transfer points.
steveintoronto
Superstar
It just dawned on me...the horror....you, I and most everyone in these forums knows how to read a map...but are we the odd ones out? Seriously, once you start asking around, the majority of folks haven't a clue how to read one. Some can't even follow the instructions of a GPS direction finder.
Sometimes we forget just how 'Old School' we are, even the younger ones that 'get it'. But wait, there's an app for that!
Edit to Add: I've just made a pretty outlandish statement, so thought I'd best Google...and sure enough:
Most under-25s can't read a map because they rely on sat-navs
Over two-thirds of under-25s are reduced to dribbling wrecks when confronted with paper maps, a survey conducted by MyVoucherCodes has revealed.
OCTOBER 10, 2013 1:40 AM PDT
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https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/most-under-25s-cant-read-a-map-because-they-rely-on-sat-navs/
That was over five years ago. Guaranteed it's gotten worse...
44 North
Senior Member
Exactly, roll them out all at once next to and above every door. Not piecemeal. As for the line map. Brilliant and a long time coming, but agreed a little tick that shows the intersecting line could improve it.
jje1000
Senior Member
Pretty sure the contractors are laughing their way to the bank.
toronto.citynews.ca
TTC tearing up Leslieville intersection for third time in 6 years
It is by now a familiar sight for residents of Leslieville: The intersection of Queen and Leslie Streets being torn up for TTC streetcar work. It’s the third time in six years that this 60-metre stretch of Leslie between Queen Street and Eastern Avenue is under construction – and it may not be...
toronto.citynews.ca
nfitz
Superstar
They didn't get paid for the second time (which was in days of them doing it the first time - so still mobed), as it was their error.
I can't see how the contractor would be laughing - especially if it turns out they are at fault. Crying is more likely if it turns out to be a warranty repair!