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There are two other things that make enclosed shelters a good fit for Go Transit:

1. Go Trains are less frequent - usually every 30 minutes - so people need somewhere to go if they have an extended wait
2. The shelters are staffed, and the staff leave and lock the doors when there aren't any inbound trains running.
3. The shelters are not the TTCs They belong to the City/Astral.
 
3. The shelters are not the TTCs They belong to the City/Astral.

Those are the regular bus shelters. The comment was talking about fully-enclosed shelters, which the TTC currently only has two of, at Humber Loop and Long Branch.
 
There probably aren't very many job openings available for being the CEO of a transportation system, let alone the third largest system in North America. I'm sure there are tons of people that would jump at the opportunity.

I feel like the CEO position of the TTC is both envied and unenvied at the same time, due to the continuous lack of funding and the (unusually high?) amount of political footballing this system has to endure.
 
Andy Byford is the current CEO of the TTC. Andy came to Toronto by way of transit agencies in England and Australia.

Wonder who is waiting in the wings? Would they come from some transit agency in North America, England, or Australia? What would happen should someone from Spain, Germany, China, Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Malaysia, Singapore, or Thailand are invited get the #2 job, or "worse" the top job? Would they first check to see if the TTC has the resources available, similar or close what their originating countries gave their transit agencies?

They’ll probably not accept, if they saw what the TTC has backing them.

Off topic but more to the point. Given the political interference I doubt anyone would take the position willingly. There are plenty of people out there but most of them would rather prefer to do things their way without having to worry about fitting it into someone else's agenda.

Can you imagine what would happen in London if TFL was the subject of political interference. Crossrail would never have been built and the Overground would still be a mashup of various other lines.

The real problem with the TTC is that everyone wants things done their way and for their own benefit. It took a subway crash, deaths and a coroners inquest for things to change under David Gunn. If people had not died they likely would have attempted to explain it away and gone back to a mediocre fix just to say they did something.

I doubt there is anyone out there who wants to take Andy's job if and when the time comes.
 
The TTC installed new cladding on the platform walls at Kipling station:
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Link: https://twitter.com/photoblair/status/926554628862423041
 

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Couldn’t possibly be worse than what was there before. I was wondering when they’d clean those disgusting walls up. Evidently they just decided to cover over it.
 
The least they could have done is to match the colour of wall panels to the floor panels. This just looks off, especially with how they wont even end up cleaning these panels either.
 
The least they could have done is to match the colour of wall panels to the floor panels. This just looks off, especially with how they wont even end up cleaning these panels either.

Not as off as the wall panels to the ceiling at Museum.
 
I like the new wall panels as they almost embody the clean lines of the original TTC designs- they should be applied defacto to the original Yonge line stations, to the Bloor line stations as needed, and also at Kennedy. The ceilings need to also be painted black to hide the pipes/wiring that has accumulated over the years, and new modern lighting fixtures installed across the system. Disused electronics (i.e. old clocks, countdown signals) and wayfinding need to be stripped out to reduce station clutter. Overall, renovations should make the most impact with as little cost as possible.

Something like this would work well:

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http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/2016/10/21/pols-favor-reduced-metrocards-low-income-riders



Some good news:
TTC test of new signalling system ‘exceeded expectations’
Chief operating officer Mike Palmer says TTC ‘extremely happy’ with how automatic train control system performed. System will eventually increase capacity up to 25 per cent.
The TTC says it has successfully tested a new signalling system that will eventually allow it to increase capacity on its busiest subway line by up to 25 per cent.

The transit agency concluded a 13-day test run of the system, known as automatic train control (ATC), on Saturday morning. During that time trains in regular service on the section of Line 1 (Yonge-University-Spadina) between Dupont and Yorkdale stations operated under ATC.

TTC Chief Operating Officer Mike Palmer said the agency is “extremely happy” with how the new system performed.

“It exceeded our expectations, and it bodes well for the future,” he said.
He said the transit agency is on track to have ATC installed on all of Line 1 by 2019, at a cost of $562.3 million.
Once ATC is installed on the entirety of Line 1, the TTC will be able to run trains one minute and 55 seconds apart, instead of the current minimum of two minutes and 30 seconds.

The system is already in place on the new extension of Line 1, which will open on Dec. 17.
The TTC also plans to install ATC on Line 2 (Bloor-Danforth) by about 2030, subject to funding availability.
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/tr...-signalling-system-exceeded-expectations.html
 
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I like the new wall panels as they almost embody the clean lines of the original TTC designs- they should be applied defacto to the original Yonge line stations, to the Bloor line stations as needed, and also at Kennedy. The ceilings need to also be painted black to hide the pipes/wiring that has accumulated over the years, and new modern lighting fixtures installed across the system.

That's exactly what I was thinking! It reminded me of the original vitrolite tiles.


$563 million: isn't that relatively cheap for resignalling? And isn't 2019 a very tight timeline compared to other resignalling contracts? I know NYC is struggling to update their signalling, although their system is much longer and more complicated with all the branching, incompatible lines, etc. They plan to have theirs resignalled in 2045, half a century after they started, and at a cost of ~$20 billion. We seem to be doing very well compared to that low bar...

From this article from the NYC: (sorry if it has already been posted)
New York’s more than century-old subway has been essential to the city’s growth, but there is increasing alarm that after years of progress, the system is sliding backward. To accommodate the nearly six million riders who take the subway on weekdays — the highest level since the 1940s — the authority is spending billions of dollars on new stations and more spacious trains.

The opening of the Second Avenue line and its ornately decorated stations in January was a high point for the agency, but the signal system — the least visible yet perhaps greatest challenge of all — remains mired in an analog era. Signal problems account for about 13 percent of all subway delays, and are the second most common reason for weekday delays, after overcrowding, according to statistics from the agency.
Most of New York’s subway system still relies on antiquated technology, known as block signaling, to coordinate the movement of trains. A modern system, known as communications-based train control, or C.B.T.C., is more dependable and exact, making it possible to reduce the amount of space between trains.

A computerized signal system like C.B.T.C. is also safer because trains can be stopped automatically. New York’s quest to install the new system began in 1991, after a subway derailment at Union Square in Manhattan killed five people. The train operator was speeding after he had been drinking.

More than 25 years later, the authority has little to show for its effort to install modern signals. The L line began using computerized signals in 2009 after about a decade of work. A second line, the No. 7, should have received new signals last year, but the project was delayed until the end of this year.

The process is complicated. It requires installing transponders every 500 feet on the tracks, along with radios and zone controllers, and buying new trains or upgrading them with onboard computers, radios and speed sensors. The authority also had to develop a design and software that was tailored to New York’s subway.

Over the years, the authority has kept pushing back the timeline for replacing signals. In 1997, officials said that every line would be computerized by this year. By 2005, they had pushed the deadline to 2045, and now even that target seems unrealistic.

Upgrading the signals is expensive, but an even bigger challenge is scheduling work on such a vast system where ridership is always high, even on weekends, Mr. Prendergast said.

“The money issue, as difficult as it is, is an easier issue to sort than how much work can the system sustain at one given period of time,” he said.

As ridership exploded on the L line, which runs between Brooklyn and downtown Manhattan, the agency did not have enough train cars built to communicate with the new signals.

“It took way too long, but it was a confluence of things that made it take a while,” said Richard Barone, a vice president at the Regional Plan Association, an urban policy group that has studied New York’s signals.

The authority awarded a contract for the No. 7 line work in 2010, but Hurricane Sandy struck two years later, damaging subway tracks and delaying the project. And officials have been reluctant to frustrate riders by halting train service for long stretches, leaving workers with few windows to finish the work, Mr. Barone said.



Then there is London. A close look at how it is attacking the same problems could provide something of a blueprint for New York.

As its population climbs, London is facing similar concerns about subway overcrowding. The London Underground, known as the Tube, opened in 1863 and is the oldest subway system in the world. It now carries about five million people each day, its highest ridership ever. The crowding at rush hour is so intense that officials sometimes must close certain stations.

The rollout of modern signals on four lines has significantly reduced delays, making travel across this huge city of nearly nine million people more efficient. This month, the Victoria line will reach a peak of 36 trains per hour — compared with 27 trains per hour a decade ago, and among the highest rates in Europe. In New York, the Lexington Avenue line, the nation’s most crowded subway route, runs a peak of 29 trains per hour.

On the Victoria line, which already has some signal upgrades, riders enjoy reliable service and a constant flow of trains.

“I’ve never been stuck waiting for a train,” Joe Brooke, a 20-year-old student, said as he rode the line on a recent afternoon. “It’s convenient, easy, quick.”

London has moved more quickly on signals because officials completed the work on each line faster as they gained experience, prioritized funding for the project and were willing to face commuter wrath when closing stations. The projects have required disruptive weekend closings and a major overhaul of the system’s infrastructure.

“People think it’s just a few computers — how could it be so expensive?” Mark Wild, the managing director of the London Underground, said in an interview at his office. “It’s new trains, new track, new power. The signals are a relatively small piece of the capital cost, but it’s the bit that unlocks it.”

The project to modernize the next four lines is expected to cost roughly 5.5 billion pounds, or about $7 billion, and increase capacity on those lines by a third. Funding in London is generally less challenging because the system relies on higher fares than New York and on a capital grant from the national government. But scheduling work is also easier because the subway has not traditionally run round-the-clock, as New York’s system has. The Tube only recently introduced overnight service on some routes.

I noticed this gem in the article too:

But Transport for London, the agency that runs the Tube, has faced obstacles, too. In 2013, it canceled a contract with Bombardier, a transportation company, over concerns that it could not complete signal work on four older lines on time, and started over with a different company.
 
The TTC is delusional if they think the new signaling system will increase capacity on the Yonge-University line by 25%. I'll go as high as 10-15% max. Especially if it means that there will be more trains sitting in tunnels waiting for the train ahead to clear the station.
 
The TTC is delusional if they think the new signaling system will increase capacity on the Yonge-University line by 25%. I'll go as high as 10-15% max. Especially if it means that there will be more trains sitting in tunnels waiting for the train ahead to clear the station.

I doubt they will wait for trains to clear in the tunnels. I used to go to Kennedy Station in the morning rush back around 2001-2003 when they would regularly have trains sitting in the tunnels waiting to take a platform. It would not have been uncommon to take upwards of 15-20 minutes to get between Warden and Kennedy some mornings due to the backlog.

Ever since Russell Hill trains are unable to get too close. There were times prior to August 1995 where two trains would be in the station at the same time, one coming and one going.
 

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