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TTC: Flexity Streetcars Testing & Delivery (Bombardier)

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Nothing at this time or anytime I look today at 501 to see if an Flexity is on it. Given the number of cars on the books, should have 3 cars for 501 now. 40 cars on 504 and no CLRV

4511 off loaded today.

No GPS for 4508 or 4510

4509 is heading west from Leslie for the 2nd time today and spent most the day up on St Clair. Could be in service come Monday.
 

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As nfitz said above, I think they are using today as a maintenance day, so no Flexities for 501, however, I anctipate that Flexities should return tomorrow. 4509 is currently on Queen, but not signed in or in service possibly
Didn't see any Flexity on 501 yesterday, but didn't look at it most of the day. 4509 is only sign in when doing final test and surprised it spent the first day of testing sign in. That was something new.

Up to 4507, all cars GPS are turn on 1-4 days after arrival. Once the GPS is turn on, it could be a day or more before taking its first test run. With the GPS no on for 4508 after being here 16 day so far, either the car wasn't finish when ship or there is a problem with it. 4510 is past the date when the GPS is turn on that been here 7 days so far. As TTC gets more cars, space in the service bay becomes an issue
 

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Something up with UT server, as I can't reply to a posting and get to the page, but 4416 is the only 501 car on line, as the other 2 are at the Barns now.
 

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Something up with UT server, as I can't reply to a posting and get to the page, but 4416 is the only 501 car on line, as the other 2 are at the Barns now.

When and if 4509 goes into service on Monday ( wait and see right now ! ), I am assuming it would go into service on 501, as even today ( Thursday ) there still is not enough Flexities for 501. So, hopefully soon, will see some Flexities on 501 again.
 
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4510 GPS just went live, but nothing on 4508 yet.

Too early for 4511 GPS to go live, but have seen a few show up 30-48 hours after arrival.

Looks like 4509 is being pep for service or needs work, as it been in the service bay since Wed after it last test run.

Edit. No Flexity on 501. 4217, 4221, 4226, 4236 and 4249 on 501.
 
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4510 is out testing on 501, westbound at Ronc.

Looks like we will see 4509 entering service on Sat as it is in the yard now on track 5 at the front of the track
 

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4510 GPS just went live, but nothing on 4508 yet.

Too early for 4511 GPS to go live, but have seen a few show up 30-48 hours after arrival.

Looks like 4509 is being pep for service or needs work, as it been in the service bay since Wed after it last test run.

Edit. No Flexity on 501. 4217, 4221, 4226, 4236 and 4249 on 501.
4510 is out testing on 501, westbound at Ronc.

Looks like we will see 4509 entering service on Sat as it is in the yard now on track 5 at the front of the track


So, maybe if 4509 enters service tomorrow there will finally be enough Flexities for 501 ( 3 ) and yes, 4510 just left Humber Loop on a test run.
 

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4509 has enter service on 512 after been here 15 days. Only 6 days after its GPS was turn on and doing its first day of testing.

No Flexity on 501 at this time
 

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So we have roughly five weeks left in the year including stat holidays. Depending on if you count in service or delivered cars we have 14-15 left to go if I am reading the previous posts correctly.
Crunch time. Will they make it?
 

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Thunder Bay released two cars yesterday (Friday). Kingston is projected to deliver only two by year end.

Realistically, there are only three weeks left for the rest of the promised cars to be shipped from Thunder Bay to have any hope of being received, burned in, accepted, and placed on the TTC's books in time for year end. Not a lot of runway left before takeoff.

When talking about the year end performance against target, we ought to be talking in the same terms as the actual contract. We may individually track these in some other way, but the overriding question is, has Bombardier met its commitment? And the contract is what determines that.

- Paul
 

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Thunder Bay released two cars yesterday (Friday). Kingston is projected to deliver only two by year end.

Realistically, there are only three weeks left for the rest of the promised cars to be shipped from Thunder Bay to have any hope of being received, burned in, accepted, and placed on the TTC's books in time for year end. Not a lot of runway left before takeoff.

When talking about the year end performance against target, we ought to be talking in the same terms as the actual contract. We may individually track these in some other way, but the overriding question is, has Bombardier met its commitment? And the contract is what determines that.

- Paul
Based on this year schedule, car 4524 is supposed to be the last car to be on TTC property by year end, yet based on your info of 2 to be pickup, this leave 9 more cars to be here in the next 5 weeks. If 2 are to come from Kingston, this means Thunder Bay has 7 more car to do in those 5 weeks.

As for meeting contract schedule, been miss by a year and some. Therefore BBD has fail 100% to met the contract schedule and subject to damages as per contract.

TTC CEO wants cars in service schedule and that has yet to be met, especially now when 4508 that has been here 19 days and yet to be seen or have a test run while 4509 went into service today after 15 days, 4510 is doing its 2nd day of testing after 10 day and 4511 has only been here 3 days. Only the odd car is seeing service under 10 day after arrival this year when it was the norm the previous years, with 15 days + being the norm these days.
 

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With TTC's announcement that they are only expecting 2 Kingston cars this year, it's clear that Kingston hasn't ramped up quite as fast as it should. So unlikely they'll make their Q4 target. I think that's the first quarter in 5 that they've missed significantly (they were 1-2 short in Q1 and Q2, but 3 over in Q3 - hard to quibble over a couple of days).

As for meeting contract schedule, been miss by a year and some. Therefore BBD has fail 100% to met the contract schedule and subject to damages as per contract.
I'm not sure why you are repeating ancient history here. Yes, the 2015 to 2017 schedules were completely missed. Thunder Bay production speed has been excellent for over a year now, meeting the published schedules for Q1 through Q3 2018, or within a few days, and then catching up.

With 43 cars in service Q1 to Q3 that's an average of 14.3 cars per quarter. Q4 2017 was similar with 14 cars in service (and 15 cars shipped). That's a full year of consistent Thunder Bay production.
 
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