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TTC: Flexity Streetcars Testing & Delivery (Bombardier)

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511 should be all Flexity for the Ex and other major events at the Ex.

4492 is sitting at the front of track 2 and will be going out early tomorrow for service based on that location at this time.

4489 still having GPS issues or what every causing it. It currently located at 401 & Hurontario, but in the service bay.

4494 should be in service before 4489 that is currently in the service bay. Sometime this week for service.
 

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I hope enough Flexities come online and are delivered before the Ex is over so that they don't have to remove them at all.
They’re still going to remove them all after the EX. The 511 is returning to bus operation starting the week of September second.
 

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And the old streetcars will probably be on the roads until 2022, to make up for those 3 streetcars missing at any given time for their 19 week refits.
 

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Well!!! That was fast. 4494 westbound on Queen St at Shaw St in testing stage. Fastest in a long long time.

4489 is in its standard location outside of Toronto and been in a few different spots as well.

4493 still in the service bay, but was out for testing yesterday
 

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And the old streetcars will probably be on the roads until 2022, to make up for those 3 streetcars missing at any given time for their 19 week refits.
That's a pretty minor issue compared to the streetcar shortage. And it's more than 3 at once.

They only ordered 204 cars, based on 2005 projections on requirements. Streetcar ridership has increased about 40% or so since then.

Look at the latest TTC streetcar estimated streetcar fleet requirements. At the end of 2020 they require 206 cars in service during rush hour - not including spares. They are using a spare rate of between 17% and 19% in their calcuations. That's at least 240 new streetcars.

As they have yet to order more than 204 new streetcars, they'll be pressing old streetcars into service in significant numbers for years - presumably until they fall apart.

The report (and June 2018 presentation) also shows by 2023, they'll need more than 264 new streetcars in service (about 268, growing to 289 by 2026). However, even the most optimistic plan there, doesn't see car 265 arrive until April 2024 with a more pessimistic car 205 arriving in April 2024 or later.

Given how these things tend to slip, it's not hard to imagine them needing 204 Flexities and 100 CLRVs running in 2026 ... which in reality means a lot of buses ...
 

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