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socialwoe
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The cost of tunneling under a railway's right of way is, indeed, stupid,
Yes reeeeeeeeeeeally stupid! Not to mention the area doesn't warrant it.
but how do subway tunnels induce claustrophobia, and how is it inevitable that trains will break down in them?
Ever rode to Kennedy Stn.? The dang train always breakdown in the tunnel for upto 5 mins. 5 mins in a dark, confined space, that's claustrophobia
They'd either build a parking structure or the TTC would build spaces somewhere else. Sherway's peripheral parking pads would be all be developed if the subway came, anyway.
Ugh, there is ample vacant lands west of West Mall to accomodate a parking lot, no parking structure necessary. Shared parking spaces? This is the dumbest excuse to not build a subway extension I ever heard, it's inconceivable!
How can Cloverdale possibly get a stop? You'd have to leave the rail corridor. And no one would use a Shorncliffe stop - it'd only be a few hundred metres from the East Mall stop.
Double ugh! The Shorncliffe stop would be in leu of the East Mall stop as it wouldn't exist! Shorncliffe serves Dundas St more directly than the proposed stop would, occupying the space between the rail corridor and Dundas hence accessible to both. It'd also serve the numerous office buildings, chain outlets nearby. It already routes out a bus route and could accomodate a terminal more readily routing Martin Grove buses to the area south of Princess Margaret. It's also kittycorner to Honeydale, the only thing of worth in East Mall area anyway.
As for Cloverdale I was thinking more along the lines of a Hwy 427 routing north to Pearson. This would be tricky as it would likely involve either interlining from Kipling or preferably if Peel doesn't mind, routing first to Sherway Gdns before looping counterclockwise back to Hwy 427 then running up the median to Rathburn then along Renforth to the airport. It's basically an abridged version of my previous plan. This works out for both Etobicoke and Mississauga as routes from both cities would be bisected and encountered earlier than the current system of BD allots. It also targets more nodes combined than separate (>Six-Points, Sherway, Cloverdale, ECC, >Eringate, ACC, Pearson) and shuttles in the greatest amount of people into the downtown core (Albion/Brampton commuters as well).
Now before you complain I neglected any future subways to MCC, remember you were irked that I ran out lines over too long of distances and then there'd be the pesky issue of fare zones. Who's to say a Peel Region line can't begin at Sherway run out to Hurontario, upto and across Burnhamthrope to Erin Mills Town Centre than back along Eglinton to Pearson forming a continous loop? This way both cities fund their own systems, without sabotaging the full potential of either lines.
The subway would need to at very least go over or under the main line and all the service tracks along the route.
West of Shorncliffe, it could descend to hit East Mall at North Queen, serving two cross-streets at once. From there it's a sinch entering a depression at the base of 427 to the tunnel underneath the Queensway.