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TTC expects to break ground on light rail lines this summer

Michael McKiernan, National Post Published: Thursday, February 19, 2009

The TTC's general manager expects the province to announce funding next month that will allow the city to break ground on several light rail projects this summer. Gary Webster told a transit commission meeting yesterday that construction can begin on two of the Transit City plan's seven LRT systems before the end of the year, while work on another two will follow in early 2010. "There are no roadblocks except the money, but it's highly unlikely the funding won't come from the province," Mr. Webster said. The McGuinty government will unveil its budget in March, and Mr. Webster said meetings with provincial officials gave him confidence the money will materialize, although he did admit there are no contingency funding plans: "If it doesn't happen, we can't proceed," he said.
 
TTC expects Transit City funding in spring budget

February 18, 2009, 6:15 PM by Rob Roberts

The TTC’s general manager expects the province to announce funding next month that will allow the city to break ground on several light rail projects this summer.

Gary Webster told a transit commission meeting today that construction can begin on two of the Transit City plan’s seven LRT systems before the end of the year, while work on another two will follow in early 2010.

“There are no roadblocks except the money, but it’s highly unlikely the funding won’t come from the province,” Mr. Webster said.

The McGuinty government will unveil its budget in March, and Mr. Webster said meetings with provincial officials gave him confidence the money will materialize, although he did admit there are no contingency funding plans: “If it doesn’t happen, we can’t proceed,” he said.

Construction on the Park Lawn loop, part of the Waterfront West line, is scheduled to begin in June, and work on the Sheppard East line can proceed in the fall between Birchmount Road and McCowan Road. Projects on the Etobicoke-Finch West and Eglinton Crosstown lines are scheduled to begin early next year.

“It’s an aggressive and phased approach, so we start where we can,” said TTC chair Adam Giambrone. “There’s still a lot of questions to answer, but it’s important to recognize how close we are... If ever there were shovel-ready projects, these are them.”
 
^They are starting the Sheppard East from Birchmount... are they leaving open the possibility of extending the subway at least to Warden? That would be good.... but I am not holding my breath.
 
I know they had been talking about that, but the fact they are not starting construction from Vic Park or Warden, but Birchmount instead, seems to be giving some (false?) hope that the subway will be extended further than Consumers.
 
They are starting construction between McCowan and Neilsen (and the Agincourt grade separation). I wouldn't read anything into it. It could be due the the current road conditions. It could be the old "let's start constructing from the far end first, so they can't cancel the budget" trick.
 
They are starting construction between McCowan and Neilsen (and the Agincourt grade separation). I wouldn't read anything into it. It could be due the the current road conditions. It could be the old "let's start constructing from the far end first, so they can't cancel the budget" trick.

Except that this one I'd looooove to get my hands on and cancel.
 
They are starting between McCowan and Neilson (why do you folks keep spelling it Nielsen?) because it's the easiest and the cheapest. It'll be easy and quick to widen the road and put in the tracks after that.

This also means that those who want the Sheppard subway should campaign loud and hard now. It'll be only a marginal cost to cancel the project if all they've done is widen the road through Agincourt and Malvern. Getting it canned once they start roadwork west of McCowan (which will be more expensive) is going to be much more difficult.
 
Small Update:

York South-Weston councillor Francis Nunziata is advocating for the TTC to purchase a portion of the former Kodak lands at Eglinton Avenue West and Black Creek Drive currently owned by Metrus Properties. Metrus has filed a rezoning application for the former industrial site, with plans to include retail, office and commercial uses.

The site is close to the intersection of two of the TTC’s planned Transit City light rail lines (Jane & Eglinton). The TTC intends to examine opportunities for a facility for the maintenance and storage of the new LRT vehicles and have suggested that they are close to trying to purchase a portion of the former Kodak lands from Metrus - the lands are already zoned industrial.
 
^ If they are already planning to develop on that parcel, it would be perfect opportunity for collaboration of sorts for development on top of the maintenance facilities. Alas, it will not happen.
 
^ If they are already planning to develop on that parcel, it would be perfect opportunity for collaboration of sorts for development on top of the maintenance facilities. Alas, it will not happen.

It's highly unlikely that Metrus would want to get tangled up with a TTC project - the uncertainty involved would cause most developers in their right mind to shy away from any such joint venture... also it's a storage facility and not terribly appealing for an integrated development opportunity.
 
There is still an issue surrounding Don Mills station as to the Finch W line going east to Don Mills and connecting with the Sheppard line.

Doing this will mean the Sheppard LRT will have to be on the surface and reduce the cost of the tunnel under 404.

Regardless of this, TTC was still planning on running LRT from Consumer Rd to Don Mills, so the Don Mills LRT's could get to the new carhouse in the east end.
 
It's highly unlikely that Metrus would want to get tangled up with a TTC project - the uncertainty involved would cause most developers in their right mind to shy away from any such joint venture... also it's a storage facility and not terribly appealing for an integrated development opportunity.
I suppose the first part is sadly true.
But as long as there's a station there, the depot can easily be decked over and developed into something served by that station:
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and this is true for TTC's other yards, especially Davisville.
 
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