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Thanks Keithz for the response you gave to this guy. Couldn't have put it better myself.
The extension will serve nothing, nada, no one. It's textbook Transfer City 101. Placing the new LRT stations in such out-of-place locales that customers have difficulty transfer to/from the S(L)RT from/to the local connecting buses, is what the route as presented to the public precisely does. Bellamy Station midway in-between Ellesmere and Progress translates to prolonged walking times for transferees. "Markham" Station near Progress/Progress Gt is quite a jog both for102 Markham Rd bus passengers and Centennial College students to get to. At least the bus service ran directly into the campus. No Milner Station for the 132 to connect with when in the 1990s this was considered a vital location for a stop. Sheppard East Station in an odd spot to cause all sorts of detours and backtracks in order for one to complete their journey into Malvern. If I were heading to McLevin/Neilson, I'd just stick with the 133 even if it takes longer. I least I know that its direct.
What are we getting with the subway you ask? Let's see: new stations that penetrate even deeper into Scarborough. A Brimley-Eglinton Station would alleviate Kennedy and redirect several routes (12, 21, 116; 16) to that location instead. The bottlenecks between Markham and Kennedy Stn are ridiculous, so at least this will take multiple buses off Eglinton during rush hour through that stretch. McCowan-Lawrence Station which covers the hospital and the Bendale community quite well and is within 5 minutes drive of the heavily populated, major residential-commercial area of Cedarbrae-Woburn. Lastly but perhaps most importantly a direct Toronto City Centre to Scarborough City Centre link using subways, transfer-free east of Bloor-Yonge. Think of how much extra business such a move would attract to Scarbrough knowing that people go where access to fast, reliable transit is greatest.
Buses are only slow where you fail to put them into private ROWs. Their carrying capacity can go up in such case as demonstrative with several BRT systems throughout Europe, Latin America and the Far East. I've had the pleasure of riding a biarticulated bus before which can carry upto 275 passengers (that's 15 more people than a 2-car Transit City LRT trainset), and let me tell you, the seats were padded and spacious with ample legroom, there was LCD display for travel arrival times, A/C on-board, next station announcements, prepaid boarding which allowed for shorter dwell times and shorter overall travel times, etc. To implement such a thing adjacent to the 401 through Scarbrough to get customers to/from major destinations such as Malvern, UTSC and West Hill as fast or even faster than LRT would not cost billions of dollars or even a billion and could be completed within a couple of years maximum if the York U busway is any indication of how quickly BRT Busways can be built. However since the TTC, and apparently you, feel as though riding buses is beneath the public, they'll continue to hold the entire city ransom by refusing to make any improvements to the transit service until the Premier caves into their demands. An illusion of saliency.
I am talking solely about the conversion of the current SRT, and not any extensions. But let's play the cost-neutral game. For 1.2 Billion,you are extending the S(L)RT to Malvern, and will serve Centennial College, essentially allowing riders the option of not having to transfer at STC. What are you getting with the subway? Still the same annoying transfer at STC to slow buses. I fail to see the benefit at this point in time.
The LRT is going to be mostly grade-separated, and larger vehicles. Capacity will be doubled. Tell me why a technology derided by so many citizens is preferable? The last time I rode the SRT, I remember I could barely hear my Ipod due to the noise. Has that issue been addressed yet?
The extension will serve nothing, nada, no one. It's textbook Transfer City 101. Placing the new LRT stations in such out-of-place locales that customers have difficulty transfer to/from the S(L)RT from/to the local connecting buses, is what the route as presented to the public precisely does. Bellamy Station midway in-between Ellesmere and Progress translates to prolonged walking times for transferees. "Markham" Station near Progress/Progress Gt is quite a jog both for102 Markham Rd bus passengers and Centennial College students to get to. At least the bus service ran directly into the campus. No Milner Station for the 132 to connect with when in the 1990s this was considered a vital location for a stop. Sheppard East Station in an odd spot to cause all sorts of detours and backtracks in order for one to complete their journey into Malvern. If I were heading to McLevin/Neilson, I'd just stick with the 133 even if it takes longer. I least I know that its direct.
What are we getting with the subway you ask? Let's see: new stations that penetrate even deeper into Scarborough. A Brimley-Eglinton Station would alleviate Kennedy and redirect several routes (12, 21, 116; 16) to that location instead. The bottlenecks between Markham and Kennedy Stn are ridiculous, so at least this will take multiple buses off Eglinton during rush hour through that stretch. McCowan-Lawrence Station which covers the hospital and the Bendale community quite well and is within 5 minutes drive of the heavily populated, major residential-commercial area of Cedarbrae-Woburn. Lastly but perhaps most importantly a direct Toronto City Centre to Scarborough City Centre link using subways, transfer-free east of Bloor-Yonge. Think of how much extra business such a move would attract to Scarbrough knowing that people go where access to fast, reliable transit is greatest.
Buses are only slow where you fail to put them into private ROWs. Their carrying capacity can go up in such case as demonstrative with several BRT systems throughout Europe, Latin America and the Far East. I've had the pleasure of riding a biarticulated bus before which can carry upto 275 passengers (that's 15 more people than a 2-car Transit City LRT trainset), and let me tell you, the seats were padded and spacious with ample legroom, there was LCD display for travel arrival times, A/C on-board, next station announcements, prepaid boarding which allowed for shorter dwell times and shorter overall travel times, etc. To implement such a thing adjacent to the 401 through Scarbrough to get customers to/from major destinations such as Malvern, UTSC and West Hill as fast or even faster than LRT would not cost billions of dollars or even a billion and could be completed within a couple of years maximum if the York U busway is any indication of how quickly BRT Busways can be built. However since the TTC, and apparently you, feel as though riding buses is beneath the public, they'll continue to hold the entire city ransom by refusing to make any improvements to the transit service until the Premier caves into their demands. An illusion of saliency.