scarberiankhatru
Senior Member
Couldn't that same logic be applied to the SRT? Why couldn't the ICTS service be extended to Sheppard meeting either subway or LRT from there? Oh I forgot we're allergic to transfers here . Anyway, the SRT extension wouldn't just benefit Malvernites. 95 users would benefit from stops adjacent to Ellesmere, Centennial College users at Progress and Milner Business Ct and new townhouse developments just south of Sheppard. I don't think it's a good idea to route buses along the highway since gridlock can severely slow down commutes (THINK: 139 Finch E-Don Mills), and as for Ellesmere why would anyone waste millions constructing LRT through vacant fields and rolling hills and valleys? 133/38 is only 10 mins to Neilson and 15 to UTSC.
Isn't Birchmount just a block west of Allenford, so why would the 17 be routed to Warden? An underground walkway more than suffices. My suggestion only included one mid-point station at Kennedy which would actually intercept more transitways than Sheppard/Agincourt would (Midtown/Stoufville/401/SRT/43) plus a major commercial zone with hotels and high rises nearby. Looking at the offical proposals its not out of the realm of possibility to serve BOTH Agincourt (the mall, not the GO Stn.) and Kennedy Commons with a station akin to Oriole GO built to accomodate commuter rail traffic.
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Yes, the RT extension would only benefit the area NE of STC...there's over 120,000 people in Milliken (Ward 41 & the Denison area) that would benefit from a subway extension. Everything along Ellesmere and Lawrence will also not benefit from the RT extension. This amounts to a majority of the RT's riders.
The 139 can actually save time getting to Fairview via the 404, but it's only on the 404 for 2km - it could just as easily take Don Mills. The 139 sees low ridership because it makes every local stop between Neilson and Victoria Park, and then if you're going to the Yonge line, you must transfer to the stubway for only 5km...it's not an improvement over the regular Finch bus and calling it "express" is silly.
Ellesmere's not worth LRT? A few pages back you claimed Ellesmere & Neilson was an area of equal importance to the entirety of Agincourt.
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It's very simple. Yes, Birchmount is west of Allanford, but having it run to an Agincourt Mall/Allanford station would be kind of like running the Cummer bus to Steeles instead of Finch. Birchmount is only 400m from Allanford but it's only 800m from Warden - the dominant travel pattern will be to take Birchmount south and the Sheppard line west, so people will appreciate not backtracking. This also has the effect of serving the stretch of Sheppard between Birchmount and Warden with a bit of local surface transit. A 400m walkway would really suck and would take longer to travel! BUT: an Allanford station bus station would probably be to the east of the station, closer to Kennedy, meaning the Birchmount-to-Allanford station distance could easily be practically as far as the distance to Warden, which would mean running to Warden is an obvious choice.
Taking the 401 would eliminate Warden, Allanford/Agincourt Mall, and Agincourt/GO stations. You're suggesting one station at Kennedy on the 401 and this will serve Kennedy Commons, Agincourt Mall, and the Stouffville/Midtown interchange? You do realize that Agincourt Mall is 1.2km away? And that the GO interchange would need a 700m underground walkway?