Toronto Yonge Sheppard Centre Renovations and Expansion | 123.13m | 35s | RioCan | BDP Quadrangle

Let's hope they get funding to do this. The city needs to funds these kinds of projects outside the core. This is a perfect place to do this.
 
innsertnamehere said:
You can give more left signal priority at Poyntz and Greenfield than at Sheppard as the cross traffic isn't as strong. Lets you put more time into an advance green.

Also, a large part of the idea behind this project is to reduce auto dependancy in the area. Everyone drives everywhere because it is easy to, if the bike lanes are in and the sidewalk is a nicer place to be, people will be less inclined to. NYCC is at the point where one can make the vast majority of trips without a car, the infrastructure just doesn't support it.
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It will certainly help in the long run. There are many trips that residents make by car that can be made by walking, cycling, and transit with all the density in the area. It would also reduce the number of residents moving to the area with the expectation that it'll be easy to drive because the roads are wide and the 401 is nearby. Not everyone knows how much traffic there is at rush hour when they move to the area.
 
innsertnamehere said:
You can give more left signal priority at Poyntz and Greenfield than at Sheppard as the cross traffic isn't as strong. Lets you put more time into an advance green.

Also, a large part of the idea behind this project is to reduce auto dependancy in the area. Everyone drives everywhere because it is easy to, if the bike lanes are in and the sidewalk is a nicer place to be, people will be less inclined to. NYCC is at the point where one can make the vast majority of trips without a car, the infrastructure just doesn't support it.
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People don't drive everywhere if their destination is along the Yonge St. spine. They only drive because, their workplace is not in the downtown core, and/or their social life goes beyond their local neighbourhood and is nowhere near the downtown core. For a lot of the cross town trips there isn't a viable option that can compete with car when it comes to travel time. (One exception, the GO bus to the airport is an excellent alternative to driving)
 
innsertnamehere said:
You can give more left signal priority at Poyntz and Greenfield than at Sheppard as the cross traffic isn't as strong. Lets you put more time into an advance green.
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Advance green means traffic can't move in the opposite direction. That's fine at Yonge & 401 since there's much more southbound traffic (including to the 401 EB) than northbound. It's not gonna work elsewhere on Yonge because there's roughly the same amount of traffic in each direction.

innsertnamehere said:
Also, a large part of the idea behind this project is to reduce auto dependancy in the area. Everyone drives everywhere because it is easy to, if the bike lanes are in and the sidewalk is a nicer place to be, people will be less inclined to.
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NYCC is a neighbourhood for people who want to live somewhere walkable and well-connected by transit, but can't commute to/from downtown on a day-to-day basis. People drive because they have no other choice - they work (or at least one person in their home works) in parts of Toronto and the GTA that have been left behind by downtown-centric transit planning. Nobody drives to/from places on Yonge because everything is within walking distance. This is why I say that a lot of people who talk about this project seem to have no clue what kind of area this is.

Bike lanes will be a great addition but hardly anyone's going to use them because the area is surrounded by big ravines in three directions - their main benefit will simply be to act as a buffer between pedestrians and road traffic. Yonge Street definitely needs to be reconfigured to reflect what the area is now rather than what it was 20 years ago, but it's not going to be an urban planner's fantasy. Nearly everyone who lives in the area doesn't work in the area, and nearly everyone who works in the area doesn't live in the area. The only way the city's going to change that is by artificially deflating the cost of renting in NYCC by 10-20 percent relative to downtown - people who work here and are willing to pay $1,600/month for a one-bedroom apartment will obviously choose to put up with the 15 minute subway ride.
 
innsertnamehere said:
Also, a large part of the idea behind this project is to reduce auto dependancy in the area. Everyone drives everywhere because it is easy to, if the bike lanes are in and the sidewalk is a nicer place to be, people will be less inclined to. NYCC is at the point where one can make the vast majority of trips without a car, the infrastructure just doesn't support it.
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Doesn't solve the problem of the people that use Yonge Street north of the 401 to get to places beyond NYCC. A lot of people use it to get to Thornhill and further afield.
 
Edward Skira said:
Doesn't solve the problem of the people that use Yonge Street north of the 401 to get to places beyond NYCC. A lot of people use it to get to Thornhill and further afield.
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Doris/Beecroft would still be available for those people, especially if the city reconfigures them to be one-way streets and extends Doris south of Sheppard (both of which are planned).
 
amnesiajune said:
Doris/Beecroft would still be available for those people, especially if the city reconfigures them to be one-way streets and extends Doris south of Sheppard (both of which are planned).
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I've spoken with Filion and there are no plans to do this. Also as far as I recall there is no funding to extend Doris southbound. It would add a tremendous help to the area if they did that. Also the flyover ramp to the 401 has been killed by the province as they don't want more traffic coming onto the 401 faster. They are ok with letting it fester on city roads.

If Yonge is reduced to just 2 lanes the jams will get a lot worse initially. However, traffic will adjust and NYCC will become a much better live-able community. Yonge will be less of a highway. I'm not holding much hope for this to be funded. Of the North York councillors, only Filion supports this. The others are all car-centric and will never support this.
 
The city has the funding allocated in the 2017 capital budget, with construction starting in 2018 and finishing in 2020.

They also almost have all the land to extend beecroft to Steeles. Essentially all that is missing is the Centrepoint mall section. I wouldn't be surprised if it gets brought up to at least Drewry soon though.
 
innsertnamehere said:
They also almost have all the land to extend beecroft to Steeles. Essentially all that is missing is the Centrepoint mall section. I wouldn't be surprised if it gets brought up to at least Drewry soon though.
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No they don't. They don't even have the land to get it past the TTC parking lot.
 
they own most of, if not all of, the houses on Inez Court. They also have the property on Drewry. At most there is1-2 properties needed still.
 
Edward Skira said:
Doesn't solve the problem of the people that use Yonge Street north of the 401 to get to places beyond NYCC. A lot of people use it to get to Thornhill and further afield.
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Then to those who say people will find other routes: Bathurst has a partial interchange with the 401, Avenue Rd dead ends just beyond the 401, Bayview is saturated during rush, Leslie is cut off at Steeles, Don Mills doesn't have access to/from 401.
amnesiajune said:
Doris/Beecroft would still be available for those people, especially if the city reconfigures them to be one-way streets and extends Doris south of Sheppard (both of which are planned).
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Other than completed the streets' connections to Finch, I only see the city doing everything to make those streets as local/residential as possible - make sense, as there are number of public institutions fronting both streets. I guess Willowdale Av. will be the new "highway".
 
Not sure if this was posted, but they opened half of the new food court they renovated, and closed the part that was still open during renovations. Jimmy the Greek is in its new spot and Wikki Hut has opened. A&W is coming before the end of May. Furama and Potbelly Sandwiches will be opening soon too.
 
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