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[Zach6668]

It's not that they don't want players playing in the Olympics, it's that the owners don't get any of the revenue earned by the IOC, et al, but assume some risk by shutting down the season part way through, and injury risk (although insurance helps mitigate the contract burdens, there can still be longer term effects if a key player being injured causes a team to miss the playoffs and all the associated revenue).

The idea is for the WCH and the Olympics to go exist. That's why the first (in this incarnation of the) WCH happened in 2016. Olympics in 2018 (if they go), and another WCH in 2020. It fills the gap between Olympics.

Um... something something Spadina Subway.

 

[books]

If Patrick Brown becomes the next premier of Ontario and Doug Ford becomes the next mayor of Toronto then most transit building will very likely grind to a screeching halt. What we need is long term planning that doesn't go off the rails (sorry, couldn't resist) every time politicians opposed to public transit come to power. We need steady expansion to match the growth of the city; we don't need a repeat of the Eglinton subway being filled in with concrete or the Sheppard stubway.

 

[TDE]

I discuss the bus routing changes and the unknowns about fare integration once GO, YRT and Brampton passengers are forced to transfer to the subway to get to campus. It's ridiculous that one year out, nobody knows the details yet.

Happily, though, Brampton Transit is aware of the 501/501A split termini and say that the YRT document is not necessarily Brampton's final plans. They also expect an increase in demand because of the direct subway connection and are planning for that.

https://seanmarshall.ca/2016/12/04/unanswered-questions-about-torontos-next-subway-extension/

I would like to know how YRT riders need two fares from the north and west connecting via Subway to York U., yet those in Thornhill along route 3 will pay one fare to York University.

On a side note, the 501 should probably be focused along the 407 until the subway. Viva/YRT should get off their rears and have viva Orange adequately service the Highway 7 corridor and meet the 501 after the 427.

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

If Patrick Brown becomes the next premier of Ontario and Doug Ford becomes the next mayor of Toronto then most transit building will very likely grind to a screeching halt. What we need is long term planning that doesn't go off the rails (sorry, couldn't resist) every time politicians opposed to public transit come to power. We need steady expansion to match the growth of the city; we don't need a repeat of the Eglinton subway being filled in with concrete or the Sheppard stubway.

Is Doug Ford evenb still intrested in being Mayor of Toronto? Plus ther are a lot o ifs ther becuse you are aswoming that the conservitives will end up in power in Ontario gain?

 

[books]

Is Doug Ford evenb still intrested in being Mayor of Toronto? Plus ther are a lot o ifs ther becuse you are aswoming that the conservitives will end up in power in Ontario gain?

I seem to recall Doug Ford dropping hints in the media about a run at the mayor's office; I really hope he just leaves our city alone. As for the Ontario PCs getting back in power, that is a distinct possibility, and if they do they'd likely pull the plug on a lot of transit projects around the province. Government bad, "free market" good - all that sort of childish nonsense.

 

[TransitBart]

How come the TTC can publish a report like this on changes in bus routing for Line 5 - which is four to five years in the future, and this forum is debating what will happen next year when TYSSE opens?

https://www.ttc.ca/About_the_TTC/Co...Routes_in_Eglinton_Corridor_for_Line_5_Ra.pdf

 

[Rainforest]

How come the TTC can publish a report like this on changes in bus routing for Line 5 - which is four to five years in the future, and this forum is debating what will happen next year when TYSSE opens?

https://www.ttc.ca/About_the_TTC/Co...Routes_in_Eglinton_Corridor_for_Line_5_Ra.pdf

There is nothing wrong with TTC being proactive and publishing the route change proposals a few years in advance.

But, frankly, even one year is enough to debate the route changes and make the public aware of them.

 

[Rainforest]

I would like to know how YRT riders need two fares from the north and west connecting via Subway to York U., yet those in Thornhill along route 3 will pay one fare to York University.

YRT wants to run as many as five local routes via York Blvd, Ian McDonald, and Founders. Riders coming on GO, or on YRT routes like the new 165 Weston YRT, will be able to transfer to one of those routes for a short ride close to the center of the campus.

That will give riders from the north a chance to avoid paying the TTC subway fare.

Of course, that will lead to some wasted transit capacity, as much more "capacity" than needed will run between the Pioneer Village station and the York U station. I would like to advice YRT to reduce that waste. They can keep one route, for example 107 Keele, running both ways via York Blvd, Ian McDonald, and Founders, but all other routes should go straight to the Pioneer Village station.

On a side note, the 501 should probably be focused along the 407 until the subway.

That makes sense. Most of 501 riders will want to go either to York U or to the subway, rather to intermediate stops along Hwy 7 in Woodbridge.

Viva/YRT should get off their rears and have viva Orange adequately service the Highway 7 corridor and meet the 501 after the 427.

Viva Orange is already there. If Brampton wants to maintain a direct route along Hwy 7, they should partner with Viva and contribute a proportional funding to extend Viva Orange into Brampton. That should be cheaper for Brampton than running a parallel branch of 501, duplicating the service between Hwy 427 and Jane.

 

[smallspy]

Viva Orange is already there. If Brampton wants to maintain a direct route along Hwy 7, they should partner with Viva and contribute a proportional funding to extend Viva Orange into Brampton. That should be cheaper for Brampton than running a parallel branch of 501, duplicating the service between Hwy 427 and Jane.

The section of Brampton Transit's 501 service on Highway 7 that overlaps with VIVA Orange is already run in partnership with YRT. That the Orange service still runs is more of a political decision by YRT - they didn't want to be seen as having "given up" the service, even if it was being shared.

The reasoning behind the section along the 407 is that Brampton wants the additional capacity west of Airport Rd., as well as a direct connection to York University.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.

 

[Rainforest]

The section of Brampton Transit's 501 service on Highway 7 that overlaps with VIVA Orange is already run in partnership with YRT. That the Orange service still runs is more of a political decision by YRT - they didn't want to be seen as having "given up" the service, even if it was being shared.

The reasoning behind the section along the 407 is that Brampton wants the additional capacity west of Airport Rd., as well as a direct connection to York University.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.

Thanks for the details.

I still think though that ending the Orange line at the eastern edge of ridership-rich Brampton, for no reason other than the municipal border, is not the best service design. The route re-design triggered by the subway opening is a good reason to fix that anomaly as well.

The logical design, IMO, would be to have one trunk line all the way from the Brampton core to Richmond Hill Centre along Hwy 7, and the other trunk line originating in the Brampton core and taking advantage of Hwy 407 to reach the York U and the subway. The latter, obviously, will retain its 501 Zum name as will have no intermediate stops in York Region.

The Hwy 7 line will have to be operated in partnership between Brampton Transit and YRT. The riders probably do not care how it might be called; Orange, 501 Zum, or Zooming Orange; as long as it has a decent frequency.

 

[Fritter]

Zooming Orange

The Zoomin orange!!!!, I like that as a Transit Service name.

 

[drum118]

Nov 27
Lot more up on site

 

[DKsan]

Rendering of the VMC Bus Terminal found on page 21 HERE

 

[PMT]

You might want to post that in the Vaughan Centre Bus Terminal thread.

 

[amnesiajune]

I would like to know how YRT riders need two fares from the north and west connecting via Subway to York U., yet those in Thornhill along route 3 will pay one fare to York University.

From what I understand, part of the agreement for the subway extension includes free connections to York University. YRT passengers get a free connection from VMC to York U, and Go Transit passengers get a free connection from Highway 407 and Downsview Park to York U.