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[nfitz]

Every 20 minutes GO Transit Highway 407 buses when?

No idea ... perhaps when there's a government in power that will fund expanded services?

 

[Streety McCarface]

The average speed of a Line 1 trains is 28 km/h, on Line 2 it is 32 km/h. From link.

Those numbers are complete and bullshit. Under optimal conditions, the speed of Line 1 is 30.5km across the entire line (38km/1.25hr), and over the TYSSE, it's 43 km/h (8.6 km/0.2hr). The only reason line 1 speeds are so low is because the trains downtown average like 16 km/h (6km/0.33hr) due to the high number of stations, the Union curve, and the insanely high dwell times due to the sheer number of passengers getting on and off. 43 km/h with dwell times is super high, especially when compared to on street traffic (which usually averages 20-30 km/h because of stoplights, accidents, buses pulling over, pedestrians, etc).

 

[Streety McCarface]

But the underground City Centre Station isn’t built yet.

It will honestly need just as many if not more platforms thirty years after its built, considering that the existing 401 buses see something like a bus every 2 minutes during rush hour, and GO buses have relatively large dwell times, I imagine that the extra time will be necessary.

Why are they building an above-grade parking lot for employees right beside a BRT and subway? At VMC they are charging $12 per day. Have these employees either (1) take the subway or (2) pay for parking like the rest of us

TBH, idk why people would even pay for parking at VMC when there's far cheaper parking at HWY 407 and PV.

 

[TOareaFan]

TBH, idk why people would even pay for parking at VMC when there's far cheaper parking at HWY 407 and PV.

Monday to Friday the time you park determines if this statement is true.

At smart centres lot if you are in before 8 and out before 4:30 then the daily rate is $5. At the publicly owned lots at 407 and PV it is a daily rate of $7 ...certainly if you are parking after 8 am (when the VMC/smart centres rate jumps to $10) you are correct.

 

[Fritter]

Why are they building an above-grade parking lot for employees right beside a BRT and subway? At VMC they are charging $12 per day. Have these employees either (1) take the subway or (2) pay for parking like the rest of us

As an employee, often one needs to be at the station before the first service, or after the last service of the day, therefore the need to drive oneself to or from the station.

 

[Amare]

is your calc based on the distance that they would have traveled by bus or the new distance they would travel by subway?

continuing on the 407 to Keele then onto campus looks to be about 4.8km......by getting them off the bus at 407 and onto a subway the journey to the York U station is cut to 2.2km (of course if they are headed for the NW part of campus then it is even shorter.

So a student switches from a bus that has to travel 4.8km (much of it in great congestion on Keele Street) to a subway that travels 2.2km underground. I think the chances of this consistently increasing their commute times are very slim.

EDIT: my bias is showing....I am only considering the impact on trips coming from the west.

My calculation was based on a hypothetical situation. The TTC is unreliable when compared to GO, so the chances of having unnecessarily long commute times are always great with the TTC regardless if one uses the subway.

 

[44 North]

Have you looked at any of the Mississauga Transitway? It is built to exactly that same standard.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.

Quite right. Sauga t.way is both massive and impressive. But let's not forget how much was downgraded from the original plans, mainly the removal of core underground portions. Granted that was a bit more complex than what's proposed here.

 

[smallspy]

Quite right. Sauga t.way is both massive and impressive. But let's not forget how much was downgraded from the original plans, mainly the removal of core underground portions. Granted that was a bit more complex than what's proposed here.

But that doesn't negate the point that the exact type of infrastructure that you were grousing doesn't exist is already built and in service. You want to know what the transitway station at Highway 407 station will look like? Go hang out at Reforth and you'll see it in action.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.

 

[Kyle Campbell]

But the underground City Centre Station isn’t built yet.

An example of something similar, a 4 lane underground BRT station in Ottawa:

It looks a little different these days though:

 

[W. K. Lis]

Not everyone is happy with the Line 1 extension.

Petition to return GO bus service to York U garners over 12,000 signatures

From link.

Over 12,000 members of the York University community have signed a petition calling out Metrolinx for cancelling GO bus stops at the university.

Earlier this week, the school announced that GO buses would no longer be stopping at the Keele campus starting in the new year.

According to a notice on the university’s website posted Tuesday, the GO bus that currently stops on campus will now be re-routed to the Highway 407 bus and train station at Jane Street and the 407.

Students will then need to hop off the bus and take the TTC subway to the Pioneer Village or York University stops along the new Line 1 extension that opened in December last year.

This means students and staff will have to pay an extra fare to get to campus.

The GO bus service was supposed to run till the end of the school term in early spring, but will now be terminated months earlier, on Jan. 5, 2019.

Metrolinx spokesperson Anne Marie Aikins said the agency is aware of the petition, but she doesn’t know of any action as a result of it.

The petition is also calling for York Region Transit to return to campus, as well as fare integration between transit providers, so there could be one flat rate across GO and the TTC.

 

[syn]

Not everyone is happy with the Line 1 extension.

Petition to return GO bus service to York U garners over 12,000 signatures

From link.

The students of York will have to transfer? They shouldn't be treated like 2nd class citizens. We need a Line 1 extension to eliminate the transfer!

In all seriousness why can't there be a stop at York first?

 

[Sandpit]

Not everyone is happy with the Line 1 extension.

Petition to return GO bus service to York U garners over 12,000 signatures

From link.

Almost certainly out of the question, since they spent a fortune building Highway 407 station. But what GO/Metrolinx could probably do is put Highway 407 Station in a different fare zone than York U, effectively reducing the GO fare to at least partially offset the extra $1.50 TTC fare. But they'll need to figure out a way to do it that results in savings for people coming in from both east and west.

 

[44 North]

But that doesn't negate the point that the exact type of infrastructure that you were grousing doesn't exist is already built and in service. You want to know what the transitway station at Highway 407 station will look like? Go hang out at Reforth and you'll see it in action.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.

Sorry that was dumb of me to have questioned its scope when it's quite literally the same style of 4-lane grade-separate station seen on (the non-surface network portion of) Sauga's T.Way. Also may've misinterpreted the diagram and the 407 station is not actually "underground" rather open cut, also like Sauga's Transitway's sub-grade stations. Hard to tell though.

 

[muller877]

Why are they building an above-grade parking lot for employees right beside a BRT and subway? At VMC they are charging $12 per day. Have these employees either (1) take the subway or (2) pay for parking like the rest of us

As an employee, often one needs to be at the station before the first service, or after the last service of the day, therefore the need to drive oneself to or from the station.

Specifically at Hwy 407 Subway there is a massive parking lot for everybody literally next door to the terminal. So the employees can either (1) pay for parking like any other TTC user or (2) take transit. Having dedicated parking lots where all the users of the station do not just shows the mentality of the TTC that customers are not #1

 

[Leo_Chan]

Specifically at Hwy 407 Subway there is a massive parking lot for everybody literally next door to the terminal. So the employees can either (1) pay for parking like any other TTC user or (2) take transit. Having dedicated parking lots where all the users of the station do not just shows the mentality of the TTC that customers are not #1

It’s probably not going to be TTC employee parking, as the Transitway will be for GO Buses.